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Old 11-14-2006, 12:09 AM
William Brenner
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Barry Margolin wrote:
> > William Brenner <wbrenner[at]nospamplease.net> wrote:
> > > rick++ wrote:


> > > > I was just looking at my mutual fund family's estimated
> > > > year-end distributions and they are quite large - like the
> > > > late 1990s again. Its been a three year bull market and most
> > > > early 200s losses have been absorbed.
> > > > > > > I've been gradually migrating to tax-advantaged investments,
> > > > but not quick enough. Migration itself can trigger more
> > > > taxes.


> > > Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> > > would not have to pay any taxes on them.


> > Aren't mutual funds REQUIRED to distribute their capital
> > gains?


> They are, and I'm sure William knows that. But I still
> chuckled at his tongue in cheek reply.


Bingo! Thanks, Harlan. Your wisdom and perceptiveness
continue to impress -- especially for one who does not read
the NY Times.<g
Bill

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Old 11-12-2006, 07:44 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> > would not have to pay any taxes on them.


> The internal assets have already been sold.
> Its a matter of assigning the gains to the shareholders
> as required by law.
> The fund could be gifted to charity before the date of
> record. Then the gains would not appear.


OR, the OP could take some extra money, put it into an
obviously failing business venture, close it up before
year's end, and therefore have a writeoff to offset those
gains.

How about that?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 11-12-2006, 07:44 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Barry Margolin wrote:
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> William Brenner <wbrenner[at]nospamplease.net> wrote:
> > rick++ wrote:


> > > I was just looking at my mutual fund family's estimated
> > > year-end distributions and they are quite large - like the
> > > late 1990s again. Its been a three year bull market and most
> > > early 200s losses have been absorbed.
> > > > > I've been gradually migrating to tax-advantaged investments,
> > > but not quick enough. Migration itself can trigger more
> > > taxes.


> > Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> > would not have to pay any taxes on them.


> Aren't mutual funds REQUIRED to distribute their capital
> gains?


They are, and I'm sure William knows that. But I still
chuckled at his tongue in cheek reply.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 11-12-2006, 07:44 PM
William Brenner
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Barry Margolin wrote:
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> William Brenner <wbrenner[at]nospamplease.net> wrote:
> > rick++ wrote:


> > > I was just looking at my mutual fund family's estimated
> > > year-end distributions and they are quite large - like the
> > > late 1990s again. Its been a three year bull market and most
> > > early 200s losses have been absorbed.
> > > > > I've been gradually migrating to tax-advantaged investments,
> > > but not quick enough. Migration itself can trigger more
> > > taxes.


> > Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> > would not have to pay any taxes on them.


> Aren't mutual funds REQUIRED to distribute their capital
> gains?


Well Barry, that's what happens when an amateur such as I
offers what was intended to be a smartass sarcastic reply.
My point was that paying a large tax bill is usually the
result of having a large income, and is not a basis for
complaint. (Before I am jumped upon again, I hasten to add
that I favor having the taxes be as minimal as the law
requires.)

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Old 11-12-2006, 07:44 PM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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William Brenner <wbrenner[at]nospamplease.net> wrote:

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> Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> would not have to pay any taxes on them.


Generally the rule is that if you decline something that you
could have received, it will be taxable whether you actually
receive it or not.

Stu

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Old 11-11-2006, 02:35 PM
Barry Margolin
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William Brenner <wbrenner[at]nospamplease.net> wrote:

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> rick++ wrote:

> > I was just looking at my mutual fund family's estimated
> > year-end distributions and they are quite large - like the
> > late 1990s again. Its been a three year bull market and most
> > early 200s losses have been absorbed.
> > > I've been gradually migrating to tax-advantaged investments,

> > but not quick enough. Migration itself can trigger more
> > taxes.


> Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> would not have to pay any taxes on them.


Aren't mutual funds REQUIRED to distribute their capital
gains?

--
Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***

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Old 11-11-2006, 02:35 PM
rick++
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> Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
> would not have to pay any taxes on them.


The internal assets have already been sold.
Its a matter of assigning the gains to the shareholders
as required by law.

The fund could be gifted to charity before the date of
record. Then the gains would not appear.

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Old 11-10-2006, 09:29 PM
William Brenner
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rick++ wrote:

- quote -

> I was just looking at my mutual fund family's estimated
> year-end distributions and they are quite large - like the
> late 1990s again. Its been a three year bull market and most
> early 200s losses have been absorbed.
> I've been gradually migrating to tax-advantaged investments,
> but not quick enough. Migration itself can trigger more
> taxes.


Perhaps you can decline receiving the distributions. Then you
would not have to pay any taxes on them.

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Old 11-10-2006, 06:22 AM
rick++
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Default scary tax year ahead

I was just looking at my mutual fund family's estimated
year-end distributions and they are quite large - like the
late 1990s again. Its been a three year bull market and most
early 200s losses have been absorbed.

I've been gradually migrating to tax-advantaged investments,
but not quick enough. Migration itself can trigger more
taxes.

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
 

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