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| Thanks for the advice guys, a lot of great info here. I'm going to review my 2005 return and see how it was done. You're probably correct in that it was most likely done right but I misunderstood. Dan << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > > Ok here's the deal, I sold an investment property last year.
Other things that could incrase your effective tax rate are> > I had owned it for about 1.5 - 2 years. Everything I read > > online said that long term capital gains are taxed at 15%. > You may have, in effect, paid somewhat more than 15%, even > on the part of the gain that is treated as long-term capital > gain, but not because it was taxed at 28%. The direct tax on > the long-term capital gain is calculated at the 15% rate. > But the gain does increase your AGI, and the higher AGI > could reduce or eliminate various deductions and credits > that are affected by AGI. Because of the side effects of the > higher AGI, it is quite possible that the gain caused your > total tax to increase by more than 15% of the long-term > gain, even though the 15% rate was applied to the gain > itself. You could say that the effective rate on the > long-term capital gain is somewhat higher than the nominal > rate of 15%. social security income, which might move from nontaxable to 85% of social security becoming taxable, and adding to AGI (See above.) And though L-T Capital Gains are taxed at 15% for AMT, a large L-T Gain can generate AMT thereby adding to your tax bill. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Dan" <dan.gosser[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok here's the deal, I sold an investment property last year.
Long-term capital gains on most types of property are taxed> I had owned it for about 1.5 - 2 years. Everything I read > online said that long term capital gains are taxed at 15%. at a rate of either 5% or 15%, depending on your tax bracket. - quote - > When I went to my accountant (who is actually a very
First of all, even the tax rate on long-term capital gains> reputable account in my workplace) they told me that the > amount of taxes i pay on that gain depends on my tax bracket depends on your tax bracket. If you are in a low enough bracket, some or all of the gain will be taxed at a rate of 5%. So it is true that the amount of tax depends on your bracket. That doesn't mean it's not being treated as long-term capital gain, or that it's being taxed at the same rate as other income. Furthermore, it is possible that not all of the gain on the property is long-term capital gain. You didn't say what the property was, but I am assuming it was land, possibly with a building on it. If you took, or could have taken, depreciation on the building or on some other part of the property, then some of the gain would be taxed as ordinary income. - quote - > and that the gain would be added in to my income for the
"Added to your income" and "taxed as ordinary income" are> year. not the same thing. All of your income, of any type, is added together to determine your total income and your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI). This does not mean that all of that income is taxed at the same rates. Different rates are applied to different types of income, even though all the income is included in the total. - quote - > So... I assume that I paid a significant amount more
You may have, in effect, paid somewhat more than 15%, even> since im in 28% bracket. on the part of the gain that is treated as long-term capital gain, but not because it was taxed at 28%. The direct tax on the long-term capital gain is calculated at the 15% rate. But the gain does increase your AGI, and the higher AGI could reduce or eliminate various deductions and credits that are affected by AGI. Because of the side effects of the higher AGI, it is quite possible that the gain caused your total tax to increase by more than 15% of the long-term gain, even though the 15% rate was applied to the gain itself. You could say that the effective rate on the long-term capital gain is somewhat higher than the nominal rate of 15%. - quote - > Now I sold another investment property this year, same deal,
You could ask him or her to go over your 2005 return with> held for over a year. When I go back to the accountant, do > I thank them for doing every right last year, or toss them > my 2005 return and tell them to get busy re-doing it? ![]() you and explain how the income from the sale was reported and how the tax was calculated. It would be better to do that now, rather than at the height of the tax season. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dan wrote: - quote - > Ok here's the deal, I sold an investment property last year.
Without actually seeing your 2005 return it's impossible to> I had owned it for about 1.5 - 2 years. Everything I read > online said that long term capital gains are taxed at 15%. > When I went to my accountant (who is actually a very > reputable account in my workplace) they told me that the > amount of taxes i pay on that gain depends on my tax bracket > and that the gain would be added in to my income for the > year. So... I assume that I paid a significant amount more > since im in 28% bracket. > Now I sold another investment property this year, same deal, > held for over a year. When I go back to the accountant, do > I thank them for doing every right last year, or toss them > my 2005 return and tell them to get busy re-doing it? ![]() say whether or not it was done correctly. I'm betting however that it was. As for the tax rate, 15% is not necessarily the capital gains rate; it could be as low as 5%, depending on your income. But the tip off is this: the gain was reported on schedule D, and on a worksheet somewhere is the proper calculation. Check your file copy given you by the preparer. He DID give you a copy, right? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Dan" <dan.gosser[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > Ok here's the deal, I sold an investment property last year.
Long term capital gains are taxed at 15% maximum. It's> I had owned it for about 1.5 - 2 years. Everything I read > online said that long term capital gains are taxed at 15%. > When I went to my accountant (who is actually a very > reputable account in my workplace) they told me that the > amount of taxes i pay on that gain depends on my tax bracket > and that the gain would be added in to my income for the > year. So... I assume that I paid a significant amount more > since im in 28% bracket. > Now I sold another investment property this year, same deal, > held for over a year. When I go back to the accountant, do > I thank them for doing every right last year, or toss them > my 2005 return and tell them to get busy re-doing it? ![]() possible that you misinterpreted what the guy told you earlier. The only reason these gains would be taxed at regular rates is if this is your business, the business of buying and selling real estate. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Ok here's the deal, I sold an investment property last year. I had owned it for about 1.5 - 2 years. Everything I read online said that long term capital gains are taxed at 15%. When I went to my accountant (who is actually a very reputable account in my workplace) they told me that the amount of taxes i pay on that gain depends on my tax bracket and that the gain would be added in to my income for the year. So... I assume that I paid a significant amount more since im in 28% bracket. Now I sold another investment property this year, same deal, held for over a year. When I go back to the accountant, do I thank them for doing every right last year, or toss them my 2005 return and tell them to get busy re-doing it? ![]() Thanks, Dan << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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