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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote:
If the stock is owned by an IRA the full value should be subject> > I'm going to be taking my first IRA distribution before the > > end of 2006. A short article in the latest issue of "Bottom > > Line Personal Edition" says that IRA distributions don't > > have to be made in cash, they can also be made by > > transferring shares out of the IRA. > Correct. > > And, what would be the those shares' "cost" and "aquisition > > date" for the purpose of calculating capital gain or loss > > when and if they are subsequently sold? > The cost is the value (see above) and the acquisition date > is the date of the transfer. See IRS Publication 590. to tax when it comes out. There is no deduction of basis because the basis was paid for by pre-tax funds. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote: - quote - > I'm going to be taking my first IRA distribution before the
Average of high and low for the day.> end of 2006. A short article in the latest issue of "Bottom > Line Personal Edition" says that IRA distributions don't > have to be made in cash, they can also be made by > transferring shares out of the IRA. > As there's mostly stocks I'm happy with and minimal cash in > my IRA, I'm keen on the idea of avoiding broker's > commissions by transfering some stock from my IRA brokerage > account to my regular taxable brokerage account with the > same firm. > I assume that the dollar value of the distribution is > determined by the number of shartes and the stock's price on > the date it's transferred out, but how should that price be > determined? (Opening or closing, max or min that day?) - quote - > And, what would be the those shares' "cost" and "aquisition
The distribution value (see above) becomes the cost basis> date" for the purpose of calculating capital gain or loss > when and if they are subsequently sold? going forward. The distribution date becomes the acquisition date for determining the future holding period. Ira Smilovitz << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jeff Wisnia wrote: - quote - > I'm going to be taking my first IRA distribution before the
For stocks, the price is the average of the high and low> end of 2006. A short article in the latest issue of "Bottom > Line Personal Edition" says that IRA distributions don't > have to be made in cash, they can also be made by > transferring shares out of the IRA. > As there's mostly stocks I'm happy with and minimal cash in > my IRA, I'm keen on the idea of avoiding broker's > commissions by transfering some stock from my IRA brokerage > account to my regular taxable brokerage account with the > same firm. > I assume that the dollar value of the distribution is > determined by the number of shartes and the stock's price on > the date it's transferred out, but how should that price be > determined? (Opening or closing, max or min that day?) prices for the day of transfer. You will be taxed on that price times the number of shares transferred. - quote - > And, what would be the those shares' "cost" and "aquisition
Your "cost" for subsequent sale is the same as the transfer> date" for the purpose of calculating capital gain or loss > when and if they are subsequently sold? value. Your holding period begins on that date also. The net tax effect is the same as if you had sold the shares in the IRA account, received the cash, and then repurchased the shares in your taxable brokerage account. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote: - quote - > I'm going to be taking my first IRA distribution before the
Correct.> end of 2006. A short article in the latest issue of "Bottom > Line Personal Edition" says that IRA distributions don't > have to be made in cash, they can also be made by > transferring shares out of the IRA. - quote - > As there's mostly stocks I'm happy with and minimal cash in
Sorry, I don't know. I'd call the custodian and ask.> my IRA, I'm keen on the idea of avoiding broker's > commissions by transfering some stock from my IRA brokerage > account to my regular taxable brokerage account with the > same firm. > I assume that the dollar value of the distribution is > determined by the number of shartes and the stock's price on > the date it's transferred out, but how should that price be > determined? (Opening or closing, max or min that day?) - quote - > And, what would be the those shares' "cost" and "aquisition
The cost is the value (see above) and the acquisition date> date" for the purpose of calculating capital gain or loss > when and if they are subsequently sold? is the date of the transfer. See IRS Publication 590. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I'm going to be taking my first IRA distribution before the end of 2006. A short article in the latest issue of "Bottom Line Personal Edition" says that IRA distributions don't have to be made in cash, they can also be made by transferring shares out of the IRA. As there's mostly stocks I'm happy with and minimal cash in my IRA, I'm keen on the idea of avoiding broker's commissions by transfering some stock from my IRA brokerage account to my regular taxable brokerage account with the same firm. I assume that the dollar value of the distribution is determined by the number of shartes and the stock's price on the date it's transferred out, but how should that price be determined? (Opening or closing, max or min that day?) And, what would be the those shares' "cost" and "aquisition date" for the purpose of calculating capital gain or loss when and if they are subsequently sold? Thanks guys, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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