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Old 10-07-2006, 03:32 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Mark Wiley wrote:

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> I was once involved with a small corporation that I was able
> to take the Officer Loans in one yeasr and reclassify them
> as Wages in another. Has anyone ever heard nof this and do
> you know where I can find documentation on the IRS website
> for the rules on this?


Notwithstanding the first two comments above, I can think
of a case where this scenario would be perfectly acceptable.
And that is maybe in the case of a startup corporation with
no profits even possible first year of operations, in which
case salaries would be kept to an absolute minimum. Then in
year two with profits on the horizon the corporation would
start to pay wages, and periodically deduct the advance
payments characterized as "officer loans."

Although to even avoid the appearance of evil (for lack of
better word) the corporation in year one should have
probably paid a token (minimum) wage to the officers.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 10-07-2006, 03:32 AM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:
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> "Mark Wiley" <markwiley[at]nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> > I was once involved with a small corporation that I was able
> > to take the Officer Loans in one year and reclassify them
> > as Wages in another. Has anyone ever heard of this and do
> > you know where I can find documentation on the IRS website
> > for the rules on this?


> Almost of us have heard of it. It's known under several
> names, e.g., "Cooking the Books", "Slush Fund Accounting".
> There are no real rules for this. You just have to pray
> for the statute of limitations to expire.


Shifting income from one year to the next reminded me of
straddles, except those involve creating a loss in one year
and an offsetting gain in another year.

While the underlying transaction appears to be legal
(assuming it wasn't planned that way in advance) it could
run afoul of the IRS's ability to reallocate income to
reflect economic reality rather than accounting
technicalities.

What's that code section again?

Stu

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Old 10-06-2006, 03:37 AM
Dick Adams
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Default Re: Reclassifying Officer Loans

"Mark Wiley" <markwiley[at]nycap.rr.com> wrote:

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> I was once involved with a small corporation that I was able
> to take the Officer Loans in one year and reclassify them
> as Wages in another. Has anyone ever heard of this and do
> you know where I can find documentation on the IRS website
> for the rules on this?


Almost of us have heard of it. It's known under several
names, e.g., "Cooking the Books", "Slush Fund Accounting".
There are no real rules for this. You just have to pray
for the statute of limitations to expire.

Dick

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Old 10-06-2006, 03:37 AM
Benjamin Yazersky CPA
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Default Re: Reclassifying Officer Loans

"Mark Wiley" <markwiley[at]nycap.rr.com> wrote:

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> I was once involved with a small corporation that I was able
> to take the Officer Loans in one year and reclassify them
> as Wages in another. Has anyone ever heard of this and do
> you know where I can find documentation on the IRS website
> for the rules on this?


looks a bit questionable to me

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Old 10-05-2006, 01:16 AM
Mark Wiley
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Default Reclassifying Officer Loans

I was once involved with a small corporation that I was able
to take the Officer Loans in one yeasr and reclassify them
as Wages in another. Has anyone ever heard nof this and do
you know where I can find documentation on the IRS website
for the rules on this?

Thanks in advance

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