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No, you can also file as married filing seperately. You> in the year? cannot file as single. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
Probably, but it is not likely to break the bank.> jointly? - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can
Have a child before January 1. Of course you cannot control> do to off set this penalty? that at this point. But you can the wedding date. I was married on January 2. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
Your status (married or single) is determined at the end of> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late > in the year? the tax year. If you're married on December 31, you're considered to be married for the entire tax year. That means you file married joint, or you can both choose to file married filing separately. In that case either you both itemize, or you both don't. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing jointly?
With those incomes, perhaps. One way to find out is to goahead and work up your taxes both ways and see how it comes out. - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can do to off set
If you are going to get hit for more taxes than expected,> this penalty? you can always bump up your withholding until the end of the year to make up any shortfall. -- John D. Goulden << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jredmond33[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
Your choices will be married filing a joint return or> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > Here are my questions: > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late > in the year? married filing separate returns. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
If you mean will you pay more total taxes, the answer is> jointly? maybe. Someone would have to run the numbers after obtaining much more detailed information about your financial lives. - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can
Get married on or after January 1, 2007 to defer the impact> do to off set this penalty? of any "marriage penalty" for a year. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jredmond33[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
Yes, marital status as of Dec 31st is all that matters.> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > Here are my questions: > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late > in the year? - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
Not enough information. While standard deduction and> jointly? exemptions will be exactly double, and I figure you will both be in 25% tax bracket either way, your (meaning you, the homeowner) itemized deductions (mortgage, prop tax, etc) might be more valuable filing single than MFJ. Do either of you have children? Lots of factors can change the calculation, such as phase-outs and limitations on your higher income as a single filer that may go away when you are married. The simplest thing is use 2005 tax software to run estimated numbers both ways. - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can
Nothing I can think of, other than running estimated numbers> do to off set this penalty? on married filing separately. Actually, unless you have the option of postponing the wedding, you might as well wait until 2007 filing period and use 2006 software and/or forms to figure whether MFJ or MFS is better. - quote - > Moderator:
I'd like to better appreciate this, but I don't get it.> Have a ficticious wedding by an actor or get married in > January. I recommended the first. Susan and I were > married in Chicago by a Lake County Judge. Really ticked > her mother off until we told her we were married in his > chambers the day before. Chicago is in Cook County, why would your M-I-L be ticked off or unticked either way? -Mark Bole Moderator: A Lake County Judge does not have the authority to marry people in Cook County. Plus you have not heard judgemental yankee-ism until you have spent an evening with my M-I-L. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jredmond33[at]gmail.com posted: - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am
Well, I know nothing about NY tax law, except the pretty> getting married on December 29, 2006. She > makes 55K and I make 70K. > =A0=A0We live in NY State. well-established rumor that it is "expensive." - quote - > Here are my questions:
Once you're married, you are _married_ -- and your choices> 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married > this late =A0 in the year? are limited to MFJ (Married Filing Jointly) or MFS (Married Filing Separately). You cannot "unring" that wedding bell, and if it happens before midnight, Dec 31, it applies to the full tax year. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and
Well, that depends on a lot of things. But generally> filing =A0 jointly? speaking, your combined income will likely land you in the 25% marginal tax bracket, which is where you both _probably_ were while filing single (presumed from the info on income you provided). So, no penalty there. Ditto for a lot of standard tax deductions, credits, etc. -- which were "fixed" when the "marriage penalty" was removed, or at least softened, a few years ago. - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything
The Moderator pointed out that you can postpone the wedding> that I can =A0 do to off set this penalty? (or use "fake" stand-ins to delay the actual legal event) .... but otherwise, my first comment pretty much holds: Once married, you're _married_, for tax purposes. Btw, MFS has a lot of restrictions and some very real _penalties_, so while it is rarely desirable <emphasize rarely> , many options are either prohibited or restricted. But software often offers easy comparisons (TaxWise, for example, has a running comparison which can be checked to verify which alternative is better), so it shouldn't be too difficult to verify you're making the best choice. Hopefully, the _bliss_ will offset all other considerations. <smile Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <jredmond33[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
Your only options are Married Filing Jountly, or Married> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > Here are my questions: > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late > in the year? Filing Separately. MFJ generally results in a lower overall tax. But it might be worht hte extra effort to compute them each way (that means preparing three sets of returns (MFJ - both of you; MFS - you; MFS - her) and see what results in the lower tax. Remember to look at the state impact as well. There are some software packages that help in this regard, making the split as simple as hitting a key (if the data is entered correctly). - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
Not from the IRS.> jointly? - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can
Wait till January, but you probably have too much money tied> do to off set this penalty? up in the December date to change it now. - quote - > Moderator:
**Jokes about being "sentenced" are reserved till another time**> Have a ficticious wedding by an actor or get married in > January. I recommended the first. Susan and I were > married in Chicago by a Lake County Judge. Really ticked > her mother off until we told her we were married in his > chambers the day before. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jredmond33[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
Your options are limited to Married Filing Joint or Married> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > Here are my questions: > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late > in the year? Filing Separate, but not Single. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
Depends on what you mean by "penalize". There is no actual> jointly? IRS penalty, but you may find (depending on your circumstances) that you pay more tax filing MFJ than two individuals with the same income ("marriage penalty"). Not much you can do about it until the tax laws are changed in your favor (and to the disadvantage of single taxpayers). - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can
Nothing comes to mind.> do to off set this penalty? - quote - > Moderator: > Have a ficticious wedding by an actor or get married in > January. I recommended the first. Susan and I were > married in Chicago by a Lake County Judge. Really ticked > her mother off until we told her we were married in his > chambers the day before. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <jredmond33[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
If you are married you cannot file as Single. Your choices> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > Here are my questions: > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late > in the year? are Married filing joijntly or Married filing Separately. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
Not necessarily. And if your income are not too close, you> jointly? could be better off. - quote - > 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can
If there is a penalty so be it.> do to off set this penalty? __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting
You can file either MFJ or MFS (Married Filing Separately),> married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. > We live in NY State. > 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this > late in the year? which ever works out best for you. - quote - > 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing
Generally MFJ is more beneficial than MFS. Postponing the> jointly? wedding until January may save you something in taxes, especially if you could itemize and she takes the standard deduction, By this time I asssume the invitations are printed, the hall is rented, and she has told all her friends. Upsetting those plans by changing the wedding date based on tax considerations will not considered a romantic gesture. Enjoy. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Ok. I just bought a house in March, 2006. I am getting married on December 29, 2006. She makes 55K and I make 70K. We live in NY State. Here are my questions: 1. Are we required to file jointly getting married this late in the year? 2. Will we be penalized for getting married and filing jointly? 3. If we are to be penalized, is there anything that I can do to off set this penalty? Thanks, Jeremy Moderator: Have a ficticious wedding by an actor or get married in January. I recommended the first. Susan and I were married in Chicago by a Lake County Judge. Really ticked her mother off until we told her we were married in his chambers the day before. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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