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| - quote - > However, I've had a Treasury Direct account for years and
I have, but it was an unusual circumstance. The notes were> they've never sent a 1099B. Does anybody out there know > somebody who received a 1099B for Treasury securities held > to maturity in Treasury Direct? bought in a joint account using my SSN and later transferred to a (revocable) trust account under the same SSN. No taxable event occurred at the time of the transfer, but a 1099-B was issued at maturity. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > > I purchased a Treasury Note using Treasury Direct.
Your response does seem logical.> > > The Treasury Direct statement shows a "Refund Payment" for > > the purchase, about a half percent of the face value. It > > also shows a "Security price" being the face value minus the > > refund. > > > Does the Refund Payment have any impact on income tax? > The refund means you had more on deposit in your TD account > than needed to purchase the note, so it was refunded in a > nontaxable transaction. > Since the note will be treated as not only an interest > paying instrument, but as a bond that can appreciate or > depreciate, there could be capital gain on sale. You would > expect a 1099B reporting sale or redemption. However, I've had a Treasury Direct account for years and they've never sent a 1099B. Does anybody out there know somebody who received a 1099B for Treasury securities held to maturity in Treasury Direct? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > The refund means you had more on deposit in your TD account
If he bought a note from Treasury Direct, he bought it at> than needed to purchase the note, so it was refunded in a > nontaxable transaction. > Since the note will be treated as not only an interest > paying instrument, but as a bond that can appreciate or > depreciate, there could be capital gain on sale. You would > expect a 1099B reporting sale or redemption. original issue, not on the resale market. The refund amount is usually the "loose change" necessary to adjust the note's stated interest rate (notes are issued in one-eight percent increments) to the actual auction interest rate. For example, the latest Treasury two-year note has a stated rate of 4-7/8% but was priced to yield 4.921% by a refund of $8.66 per $10,000 of face value. If held to maturity (not sold on the secondary market), Treasury Direct does not issue a 1099-B. The refund (which should in all cases be less that 1/8% of face value) is treated as de minimis. See Pub 550 for the gruesome details. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| MyVeryOwnSelf <self[at]emailNot.nul> wrote: - quote - > I purchased a Treasury Note using Treasury Direct.
The refund means you had more on deposit in your TD account> The Treasury Direct statement shows a "Refund Payment" for > the purchase, about a half percent of the face value. It > also shows a "Security price" being the face value minus the > refund. > Does the Refund Payment have any impact on income tax? > In the past, I've purchased securities by Treasury Direct > and held them to maturity. I've reported the interest of > course, but no capital gain. The Treasury sends 1099-INT but > not 1099-B. > If somebody could demystify the Refund Payment, I'd > appreciate the help. than needed to purchase the note, so it was refunded in a nontaxable transaction. Since the note will be treated as not only an interest paying instrument, but as a bond that can appreciate or depreciate, there could be capital gain on sale. You would expect a 1099B reporting sale or redemption. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I purchased a Treasury Note using Treasury Direct. The Treasury Direct statement shows a "Refund Payment" for the purchase, about a half percent of the face value. It also shows a "Security price" being the face value minus the refund. Does the Refund Payment have any impact on income tax? In the past, I've purchased securities by Treasury Direct and held them to maturity. I've reported the interest of course, but no capital gain. The Treasury sends 1099-INT but not 1099-B. If somebody could demystify the Refund Payment, I'd appreciate the help. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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