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| GSalisbury wrote: - quote - > No I don't.
There is no logic.> I try to approach -my- taxes "logically"<g> , however. - quote - > Not meaning to start a contest to see who's stream reached > further but... I was trying to make the point, using the > OP's abbreviated facts, that he had a visiter and was > wondering why should I have to pay for it. The OP is under no obligation to pay more taxes than the law requires. Why should he pay more than required? To lower your burden? - quote - > It just seems to me sometimes we (people) spend too much
It seems to me that some people spend too much time worrying> time trying to find ways to not pay our own way. about whether other people are paying their own way instead of worrying about whether they themselves are paying their own way. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| wrote: - quote - > Did you miss the part where the OP says she will live with
Thank you; that's useful information. (It answer the> him only for the last three months of the year and the first > three months of next year? Unless she is a resident of > Mexico, Canada or the US she cannot be his dependent, even > if he is supporting her during the rest of the year. question about taking his mother as a dependent, independent of the issue of whether that _should_ be permissible.) Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| GSalisbury <salsburyg.at.comcast.dot.net[at]giganews.com> wrote: - quote - > "Seth Breidbart" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote:
That this particular issue might be one of taxes, not that> > GSalisbury <salsburyg.at.comcast.dot.net[at]giganews.com> wrote: > > > "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother > > > > will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent ^^^^^^^^^ > > > > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting > > > > Oct,1,2006. Do you think > > > Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity? > > Who says it is? > Posting on a taxes forum establishing the presumption? everything is. - quote - > > > Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit.
Or does he provide most of her support year-round? That's> > Did you miss the part where he says his mother is his > > *dependent* (which I take to mean he provides more than 50% > > of her support)? > No I did not. > OP said "dependent" - but for a 6 months - a visit - > probably even entailing 100% of support while here. how I interpreted it. - quote - > Did you miss the part where he says family member (mother)
But with him _still_ providing her support.> for limited duration (6 months) at the end of which the > implication is she'll return to *her* home? - quote - > When someone visits you, regardless of the duration (a 20
If I provided a majority of *my mother's* support I'd> year visit might be over-staying your welcome a bit<g> ...) > do you make them get a job? Find someone else to cover the > cost of their bacon & eggs? Immediately subtract $ from your > TI? certainly see about claiming her as a dependent. - quote - > > > I spend the weekend at my brother's and drink his beer and
It doesn't matter what happened over a weekend, but over the> > > use his toothpaste and he has a tax deduction? No - he has > > > brother. > > Did the toothpaste and beer come to more than 50% of your > > total expenses for the year? > No but they might have been 100% of my expense while I was > there (I don't need much). full year. Note that he wrote his mother *is dependent* on him (now), even though she won't be in the US until next month. - quote - > My knee just jerks when I come across cases of (by my
The law (and the courts) have said that minimizing taxes is> lights) looking for a free ride - I can't help it. perfectly allowable. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Seth Breidbart" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote: - quote - > GSalisbury <salsburyg.at.comcast.dot.net[at]giganews.com> wrote:
I have already noted that I think we should pay our own way.> > "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote: > > > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother > > > will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent > > > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting > > > Oct,1,2006. Do you think > > > > > I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? > > I would hope not! > Why not? - quote - > > Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity?
Posting on a taxes forum establishing the presumption?> Who says it is? - quote - > > Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit.
No I did not.> Did you miss the part where he says his mother is his > *dependent* (which I take to mean he provides more than 50% > of her support)? OP said "dependent" - but for a 6 months - a visit - probably even entailing 100% of support while here. A visit associated with getting married and bringing wife home and mother (MIL) comes along for awhile (bet that'll be fun - NOT!). Did you miss the part where he says family member (mother) for limited duration (6 months) at the end of which the implication is she'll return to *her* home? When someone visits you, regardless of the duration (a 20 year visit might be over-staying your welcome a bit<g> ...) do you make them get a job? Find someone else to cover the cost of their bacon & eggs? Immediately subtract $ from your TI? - quote - > > I spend the weekend at my brother's and drink his beer and
No but they might have been 100% of my expense while I was> > use his toothpaste and he has a tax deduction? No - he has > > brother. > Did the toothpaste and beer come to more than 50% of your > total expenses for the year? there (I don't need much). My knee just jerks when I come across cases of (by my lights) looking for a free ride - I can't help it. Geo. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| A dependent must have a tax id number: social security or ITN. This is to screen out fakes or duplicate claims. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| A dependent must have a tax id number: social security or ITN. This is to screen out fakes or duplicate claims. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Seth Breidbart wrote: - quote - > GSalisbury <salsburyg.at.comcast.dot.net[at]giganews.com> wrote:
Did you miss the part where the OP says she will live with> > "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote: > > > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother > > > will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent > > > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting > > > Oct,1,2006. Do you think > > > > > I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? > > I would hope not! > Why not? > > Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity? > Who says it is? > > Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit. > Did you miss the part where he says his mother is his > *dependent* (which I take to mean he provides more than 50% > of her support)? him only for the last three months of the year and the first three months of next year? Unless she is a resident of Mexico, Canada or the US she cannot be his dependent, even if he is supporting her during the rest of the year. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| GSalisbury <salsburyg.at.comcast.dot.net[at]giganews.com> wrote: - quote - > "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote:
Why not?> > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother > > will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent > > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting > > Oct,1,2006. Do you think > > > I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? > I would hope not! - quote - > Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity?
Who says it is?- quote - > Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit.
Did you miss the part where he says his mother is his*dependent* (which I take to mean he provides more than 50% of her support)? - quote - > I spend the weekend at my brother's and drink his beer and
Did the toothpaste and beer come to more than 50% of your> use his toothpaste and he has a tax deduction? No - he has > brother. total expenses for the year? Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Bill Brown" <brownwp[at]longwood.edu> wrote: - quote - > GSalisbury wrote:
No I don't.> > "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote: > > > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother > > > will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent > > > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting > > > Oct,1,2006. Do you think > > > > > I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? > > I would hope not! > > Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity? > > Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit. > > I spend the weekend at my brother's and drink his beer and > > use his toothpaste and he has a tax deduction? No - he has > > brother. > And I would hope that you don't give tax advice for > compensation. I try to approach -my- taxes "logically"<g> , however. Not meaning to start a contest to see who's stream reached further but... I was trying to make the point, using the OP's abbreviated facts, that he had a visiter and was wondering why should I have to pay for it. It just seems to me sometimes we (people) spend too much time trying to find ways to not pay our own way. Geo. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| GSalisbury wrote: - quote - > "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote:
And I would hope that you don't give tax advice for> > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother > > will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent > > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting > > Oct,1,2006. Do you think > > > I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? > I would hope not! > Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity? > Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit. > I spend the weekend at my brother's and drink his beer and > use his toothpaste and he has a tax deduction? No - he has > brother. compensation. The OP needs to provide additional information but it appears that his mother-in-law will not be qualifying for resident alien status and, therefore, will not qualify to be claimed as his dependent. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "sanju" <tupe.sanjay[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I got married recently in India. My wife along with my mother
I would hope not!> will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependent > on me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting ? Oct,1,2006. Do you think > I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? Why is every life event supposed to be a tax activity? Sounds to me like you simply have someone coming for a visit. I spend the weekend at my brother's and drink his beer and use his toothpaste and he has a tax deduction? No - he has brother. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Hi, I got married recently in India. My wife alongwith my mother will join me in USA by this month end. My mother is dependenton me and she will stay with me in USA for 6 months starting Oct,1,2006. Do you think I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return in W-4 form? - Sanjay << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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