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Old 08-17-2006, 07:42 PM
TxSrv
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Default Re: late 941 filings with trust fund liability

Bernard S wrote:

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> They were Trust funds, therefore there is already one count of
> theft or stealing. Try only begging or borrowing


Or multiple fed counts, but that's still rather extreme, and
hardly the normal IRS disposition of such matters. In all
my years of IRS exp, I honestly never met anybody as
effective and "customer service" friendly as the average
prosecutor from our local U. S. Attorney's office. Martha
Stewart recently learned that one! But in everyday gubment
business like routine, late 941 taxes, a local "AUSA" will
properly demand quality of proof in a "7202 evasion" case to
be laid before a jury of peers.

So more practically, one or more of the officers/directors
was responsible to pay over the 941 taxes, so mutually now
do so, or else IRS will determine individual liability on
its own for delinquent taxes under the "100% penalty"
provision of the Code.

Fred F.

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Old 08-17-2006, 12:14 AM
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Bernard S wrote:
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> "Harlan Lunsford" <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > yahoo[at]rejuvenating.com wrote:


> > > Our PC has 3-4 years of late 941 filings and a large Trust
> > > Fund debt with penalties.
> > > > > Does the IRS have the right to use (attach, seize, levy etc)
> > > SEP-IRA (pension) funds to pay off this debt assuming
> > > virtually no other assets, corporate or personal?
> > > > > What is the most successful strategy to acheive penalty
> > > abatement?


> > Beg, borrow or steal the funds now and pay up. Once you
> > come to IRS attention and an agent has the case and even
> > THINkS about trust fund penalties, you're probably sunk.


> They were Trust funds, therfor there is already one count of
> theft or stealing. Try only begging or borrowing


Rephrased, then. Borrow from Peter to pay Paul.

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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Old 08-16-2006, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: late 941 filings with trust fund liability

"Harlan Lunsford" <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> yahoo[at]rejuvenating.com wrote:

> > Our PC has 3-4 years of late 941 filings and a large Trust
> > Fund debt with penalties.
> > > Does the IRS have the right to use (attach, seize, levy etc)

> > SEP-IRA (pension) funds to pay off this debt assuming
> > virtually no other assets, corporate or personal?
> > > What is the most successful strategy to acheive penalty

> > abatement?


> Beg, borrow or steal the funds now and pay up. Once you
> come to IRS attention and an agent has the case and even
> THINkS about trust fund penalties, you're probably sunk.


They were Trust funds, therfor there is already one count of
theft or stealing. Try only begging or borrowing

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Old 08-15-2006, 06:16 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: late 941 filings with trust fund liability

yahoo[at]rejuvenating.com wrote:

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> Our PC has 3-4 years of late 941 filings and a large Trust
> Fund debt with penalties.
> Does the IRS have the right to use (attach, seize, levy etc)
> SEP-IRA (pension) funds to pay off this debt assuming
> virtually no other assets, corporate or personal?
> What is the most successful strategy to acheive penalty
> abatement?


Beg, borrow or steal the funds now and pay up. Once you
come to IRS attention and an agent has the case and even
THINkS about trust fund penalties, you're probably sunk.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 08-13-2006, 03:36 AM
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Default late 941 filings with trust fund liability

Our PC has 3-4 years of late 941 filings and a large Trust
Fund debt with penalties.

Does the IRS have the right to use (attach, seize, levy etc)
SEP-IRA (pension) funds to pay off this debt assuming
virtually no other assets, corporate or personal?

What is the most successful strategy to acheive penalty
abatement?

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