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| AMT created by exclusion items is not recoverable on form 8801. Only deferral items will be credited. Also, you cannot recover AMT as a credit in any year you are subject to AMT. As a California resident with your income level you'll never recover any AMT, exclusion or deferral. Sorry. You probably woulldn't be paying AMT if you had not taken your California tax as a deduction. To avoid AMT don't schedule A items, but, of course, that's a bit counterproductive, isn't it? ed << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My Federal taxes for 2005 has only following entries (rounded) -- Wages: about 180K (both spouses combined) -- Interest ~= 1K; Dividends ~= 10K -- Personal exemptions -- Schedule A (itemized deduction): only 3 entries are: property tax ~= 4K; mortgage interest ~= 15K; CA income tax ~= 15K; Allowable Schedule A Deduction is capped. There are no other incomes / deductions, no tax shelters, no ISO. Nothing else. Still, I am subject to the Federal AMT, because the California income tax rates are so high (9.3% on pretty much all of income). The Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) is about 4K , on top of the regular tax. In theory, I can claim a credit for the extra payment in 2006 using form 8801, if my regular taxes are less than the AMT. However, I just did some projections and the results are very discouraging. Based on a modest increase in wage income ONLY, and no other changes, in income and deductions, I would continue to have AMT for foreseeable future. In fact, AMT will increase from year to year. Furthermore, if the law related to the increased AMT exemption of 58K expires, the AMT would increase dramatically. Q1. What rational economic behavior can my wife and I adopt that would allow us to ever claim the credit? By rational, I mean, not necessarily minimizing taxes, but maximizing the "keep" portion. Q2. For 2006, I am fortunate to receive a special, one-time, large bonus-kind of payment (called vested interest) from my employer. There was no choice in when to receive -- it had to be received in 2006. It is classified as wage, and appears on the pay slip as such. This extra bonus has doubled the wage income -- to 400K, which means -- personal exemption reduced to ZERO -- schedule A deduction reduced very significantly -- most of the additional income subject to 36% federal bracket -- PLUS an AMT of about 18K. I am VERY THANKFUL for this income, so I am not complaining. I would just like to know if there are any ways to reduce the tax hit, particularly the AMT. Q3. In 2007, my income will be back to normal, with an "accumulated AMT credit of more than 20K". What sort of (again, rational) economic behavior would help claim this credit? Q4. The income split between spouses is 60%, 40%. My projections show that even if my wife stopped working, I would still continue to be subject to (smaller amount) of AMT. So, can I EVER use that credit? Q5. I have some NON-QUALIFIED options (some already exercised in the previous years; some vested but not exercised) -- all are "in the money". How does this impact AMT? Does it make sense to exercise it in a really high income year, where everything has been phased out, like 2006, or in some other year? Are there any softwares / tools that allow for multi-year AMT projection and minimization? Play out different scenarios? (I know Congress can change laws at any time, but still, one must plan...) I would appreciate some insights. Spoca << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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