Steve Pope <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote:

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Serving meals "for the convenience of the employer" (e.g. to
keep the employees at their desks instead of going out) is a
non-taxable benefit.

Seth

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Steve Pope <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote:
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On-site restaurants the employee has to eat in, and which is
for the convenience of the employer, is not taxable.

See Pub 525 and Pub 15B, which cover this income.

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Arthur Kamlet <ArtKamlet[at]aol.REMOVE.com> wrote:
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What about Google's seven on-site restaurants serving three
meals a day, company limos to take the employees to and from
work, etc.? Still "de minimus"?

Steve

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Victor Roberts <xxx[at]lighting-research.com> writes:
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No, it doesn't. There are no meetings and employees (and
their families) are completely free to do whatever they want
during the weekend.

The company *has* pulled the "start with a required meeting"
trick on a recent employees-only trip to Disneyland, though.

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Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:

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Sae the De Minimis discussion of company provided picnics and
parties for employees and their guests in IRS Pub 15B. The
exact valuation is not specified and therefore leaves room
for interpretation of de minimus.

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Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:

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Did the company hold any meetings with the employees? Years
ago when I worked for a large corporation they held a
"meeting" at a resort in Florida for employees and their
spouse. We had one or two short meetings over two days and
the rest of the time was open. I know they paid for my
plane ticket and believe they also paid for my wife's
ticket, in addition to the room at the resort and those
meals that were held with the group. There was an
expectation that we would get to know the other employees
and their spouses better. I believe the company considered
this a "team building" meeting instead of an outright gift,
but the rules for such things may have changed over the
years. (One thing is certain, that the financial climate
has changed and I believe that meetings like this are now
far less common.

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The company that a relative of mine works for has a pretty
impressive summer outing each year. For example, this year's
summer outing:
* Was for all employees and their families.
* Was a weekend in Bretton Woods, with people being
put up at the Mount Washington Hotel, the Bretton Arms,
the Bretton Woods Lodge, the Bretton Woods Townhouses,
and down the road at Attitash.
* The company paid for:
- Two nights (Fri, Sat) stay for employees and family
members.
- Hors d'ouvres and open bar, and band on Friday night.
- Breakfast Saturday morning.
- Boxed lunches for Saturday.
- Hors d'ouvres, fancy buffet supper, open bar, and DJ on
Saturday night.
- Breakfast Sunday morning.

The market value of this is easily over $500 per employee
(especially when an employee has a spouse and N kids). Yet
it never shows up on the employees' W-2 forms at tax time.
How does (can) this company get away with given its
employees something of that significant a value without it
having to be treated as wages to the employees? We're not
talking about de minimis fringe like a coffee mug or a $30
clock for being with the company for five years.

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