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| Taxbert wrote: - quote - > <boston_guy_992[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Not true!> > An employer improperly sent me a W2 for long term cap gain > > income of $100k. A CPA filed my original 1040 as follows to > > correct the situation (#s simplified for sake of argument): > > > Line 7 Wages = $100k > > Line 21 Other inc = ($100k) > > Sch D Line 8 = $100k > > > The state return was filed the same way, but the State > > rejected the negative # in their "other income" line, and > > taxed me on 200k. So i am amending/appealing my state return > > as follows: > > > Wages = $ 0 > > State Sch D = $100k > > > Assuming i win my State appeal, will this trigger red flags > > with the IRS now, since the state return shows 0 in the > > "wages" line and the Fed return shows $100k in "wages"? Is > > the data sharing that sophisticated, or am i in good shape > > since the W2 matches Line 7 on the 1040? (It's been almost 3 > > years since the Fed return was filed, so i obviously want to > > avoid drawing any attention to the Fed return, and make it > > past the 3 year statute). Thank You > > > NOTE: This was unrestricted, fully vested stock shares. The > > cost basis was the stock's value on my termination date. > > All appreciation after that was treated as LTCG. Similar > > fact pattern as Turzillo v. Commissioner, 346 F.2d 884 (6th > > Cir. 1965). > The IRS sends information to the states, but the states do > not send information to the IRS. California certainly DOES send information to the IRS, as do (AFAIK) all the other states that have information-sharing agreements with the IRS (which includes pretty much all the states that impose comprehensive income taxes). I was an audit supervisor with the California FTB in the early 1980's, during the previous round of tax shelter audit activity. I met with IRS personnel occasionally to share information. It turned out not to work out too well for my field audit group's production statistics, as a matter of fact. Just about every name and SSN I gave to the IRS was almost immediately contacted by IRS for audit -- and we had to back off and wait for them to do their audit. So the FTB's RAR unit got credit for the revenue instead of my field group. However, while most state tax agencies have statutory authority to rely on the correctness of an IRS determination, the IRS cannot rely on a state's work but must perform its own audit. As a result, under normal circumstances we seldom see a federal audit that appears to be the result of information received by the IRS from the state. Every once in a while I ask an audience of California tax professionals if they have ever seen an IRS audit that appeared to be the result of a California tax audit. In an audience of 100+ active practitioners, one or two hands may be raised. That's it. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <boston_guy_992[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > An employer improperly sent me a W2 for long term cap gain
The IRS sends information to the states, but the states do> income of $100k. A CPA filed my original 1040 as follows to > correct the situation (#s simplified for sake of argument): > Line 7 Wages = $100k > Line 21 Other inc = ($100k) > Sch D Line 8 = $100k > The state return was filed the same way, but the State > rejected the negative # in their "other income" line, and > taxed me on 200k. So i am amending/appealing my state return > as follows: > Wages = $ 0 > State Sch D = $100k > Assuming i win my State appeal, will this trigger red flags > with the IRS now, since the state return shows 0 in the > "wages" line and the Fed return shows $100k in "wages"? Is > the data sharing that sophisticated, or am i in good shape > since the W2 matches Line 7 on the 1040? (It's been almost 3 > years since the Fed return was filed, so i obviously want to > avoid drawing any attention to the Fed return, and make it > past the 3 year statute). Thank You > NOTE: This was unrestricted, fully vested stock shares. The > cost basis was the stock's value on my termination date. > All appreciation after that was treated as LTCG. Similar > fact pattern as Turzillo v. Commissioner, 346 F.2d 884 (6th > Cir. 1965). not send information to the IRS. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Seems to me you shouldn't have to appeal by yourself, rather
Thanks Harlan....i already filed the amended return. If it> it should be up to the CPA who prepared your return to go to > bat for you and appeal on your behalf (with suitable POA > provided him). > That's part of the "guarantee" all respectible tax pros follow comes down to a hearing, are you saying the CPA shouldnt be charging me for his time? Thanks << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| boston_guy_992[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > An employer improperly sent me a W2 for long term cap gain
Seems to me you shouldn't have to appeal by yourself, rather> income of $100k. A CPA filed my original 1040 as follows to > correct the situation (#s simplified for sake of argument): > Line 7 Wages = $100k > Line 21 Other inc = ($100k) > Sch D Line 8 = $100k > The state return was filed the same way, but the State > rejected the negative # in their "other income" line, and > taxed me on 200k. So i am amending/appealing my state return > as follows: > Wages = $ 0 > State Sch D = $100k > Assuming i win my State appeal, will this trigger red flags > with the IRS now, since the state return shows 0 in the > "wages" line and the Fed return shows $100k in "wages"? Is > the data sharing that sophisticated, or am i in good shape > since the W2 matches Line 7 on the 1040? (It's been almost 3 > years since the Fed return was filed, so i obviously want to > avoid drawing any attention to the Fed return, and make it > past the 3 year statute). Thank You > NOTE: This was unrestricted, fully vested stock shares. The > cost basis was the stock's value on my termination date. > All appreciation after that was treated as LTCG. Similar > fact pattern as Turzillo v. Commissioner, 346 F.2d 884 (6th > Cir. 1965). it should be up to the CPA who prepared your return to go to bat for you and appeal on your behalf (with suitable POA provided him). That's part of the "guarantee" all respectible tax pros follows. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Thur, July 27, 2006 << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| An employer improperly sent me a W2 for long term cap gain income of $100k. A CPA filed my original 1040 as follows to correct the situation (#s simplified for sake of argument): Line 7 Wages = $100k Line 21 Other inc = ($100k) Sch D Line 8 = $100k The state return was filed the same way, but the State rejected the negative # in their "other income" line, and taxed me on 200k. So i am amending/appealing my state return as follows: Wages = $ 0 State Sch D = $100k Assuming i win my State appeal, will this trigger red flags with the IRS now, since the state return shows 0 in the "wages" line and the Fed return shows $100k in "wages"? Is the data sharing that sophisticated, or am i in good shape since the W2 matches Line 7 on the 1040? (It's been almost 3 years since the Fed return was filed, so i obviously want to avoid drawing any attention to the Fed return, and make it past the 3 year statute). Thank You NOTE: This was unrestricted, fully vested stock shares. The cost basis was the stock's value on my termination date. All appreciation after that was treated as LTCG. Similar fact pattern as Turzillo v. Commissioner, 346 F.2d 884 (6th Cir. 1965). << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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