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Old 07-26-2006, 08:29 AM
A.G. Kalman
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A.G. Kalman wrote:
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> Tim wrote:

> > I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> > paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> > > This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for

> > social security deductions, but I will also have self
> > employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> > since my wage deductions cover the social security?
> > > Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs

> > against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> > continue to do that?


> If you look at page 2 of the Form 1040 Schedule SE, you will
> see that you only pay social security and medicare taxes
> once as an employee. You must still pay the employer half
> of those taxes on your SE income.


Please disregard the last sentence above. I forgot you said you
had maxed out your SS taxes.

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:58 PM
ed
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Tim wrote:

- quote -

> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?


When you calculate your SE taxes, the form provides for the
$90,000 cut off for SS, however, you pay the full 1.x% for
Medicare on your full income.

- quote -

> Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
> against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> continue to do that?


If your employer offers a subsidized insurance plan you
cannot take the SE Health Insurance deduction.

ed

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Steve Pope
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Tim <Tim5464[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.


> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?


Yes, the social security part of it can max out, but not
the medicare part (2.9%). The long Schedule SE does all
the necessary arithmetic.

- quote -

> Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
> against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> continue to do that?


You can't include the income adjustment for self-employed
health insurance premiums for any month in which you were
eligible for employer health insurance, even if you did not
enroll in the employer health insurance.

Steve

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:54 PM
A.G. Kalman
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Default Re: Question about self employment/payroll tax

Tim wrote:

- quote -

> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?
> Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
> against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> continue to do that?


If you look at page 2 of the Form 1040 Schedule SE, you will
see that you only pay social security and medicare taxes
once as an employee. You must still pay the employer half
of those taxes on your SE income.

You probably meant to say that you have been deducting your
health insurance expenses as an adjustment to gross income
(above the line deduction) rather than an itemized deduction
on Schedule A. You can continue to do that to the extent
that your business has a profit and your business plan
states it will provide health insurance for you, your spouse
and dependents if you have any.

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Paul Thomas
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"Tim" <Tim5464[at]yahoo.com> wrote

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> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?


Only on the Social Security portion. Medicare has no wage cap.

- quote -

> Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
> against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> continue to do that?


Yes, if your employer offers it to you.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Shagnasty
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"Tim" <Tim5464[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?
> Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
> against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> continue to do that?


If your wages exceed the Soc Sec maximum, then all you have
to pay is the Medicare tax on self-employment.

Does your salaried position include health insurance?

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Don Priebe
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> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?


You will avoid the Social Security portion (about 12.6%) but
not the Medicare portion. See Form SE.

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Herb Smith
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Default Re: Question about self employment/payroll tax

Tim wrote:

- quote -

> I have been self employed for the last few years and have
> paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.
> This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
> social security deductions, but I will also have self
> employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
> since my wage deductions cover the social security?


Not quite. There is no income limit for the Medicare tax
(1.45% x 2), so that will still be owed. See Schedule SE and
instructions, it is spelled out there.

- quote -

> Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
> against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
> continue to do that?


Yes, as an above the line deduction on page 1 of the 1040
form.

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Old 07-23-2006, 11:36 PM
Tim
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Default Question about self employment/payroll tax

I have been self employed for the last few years and have
paid a hefty self employment tax along with my income tax.

This year I will have wage income that exceeds the limit for
social security deductions, but I will also have self
employment income. Will I avoid the self employment tax
since my wage deductions cover the social security?

Also, I have been able to deduct my health insurance costs
against the self employment income. Any reason I can't
continue to do that?

Thanks.

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