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| Paul Thomas wrote: - quote - > "Vijay Sharma" <SharmaV[at]Sutterhealth.org> wrote
Seems to me that the second proposal - the purchaser pays> > If I have a basis of $10,000 as a sole owner in an S Corp > > and I sell my 50% share for $30,000, what would the entries > > (accounts and amounts) on the books be? > The books wouldn't have any financial accounting adjustments. > There would need to be some recording in the stock ledger > though. > What you are doing is selling ~your~ shares. The company is no > more a part of that transaction than you selling your Microsoft > stock on the market. > You'll have a gain or loss on the sale individually, based on > the sales price, less your basis in those shares sold. > $30,000 - $5,000 = $25,000 gain. Taxed to you personally. > Unless you need the cash, personally, have the company issue > more shares equal to the number of shares you own (then you'd > be 50% owner) and the company has no tax obligation for that > cash infusion. > Talk to both an accountant AND an attorney in your area to be > sure you are in compliance with all regulatory laws. the corporation and the corporation issues shares diluting the ownership to 50/50 - is *not* the same transaction as the first one. If I'm the seller, I want all the money in my pocket, not in the corporation where it's shared with the purchaser...! << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Paul Thomas <paulthomascpa[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > "Vijay Sharma" <SharmaV[at]Sutterhealth.org> wrote
But then the company, of which he owns 50%, would have the> > If I have a basis of $10,000 as a sole owner in an S Corp > > and I sell my 50% share for $30,000, what would the entries > > (accounts and amounts) on the books be? > $30,000 - $5,000 = $25,000 gain. Taxed to you personally. > Unless you need the cash, personally, have the company issue > more shares equal to the number of shares you own (then you'd > be 50% owner) and the company has no tax obligation for that > cash infusion. $30,000, making his portion only $15,000. To be fair, the buyer should pay $60,000 to the company for half (assuming the company was originally worth $30,000 for half, it was worth $60,000 for all, so now with an additional $60,000 in cash it's worth $120,000). Then the company could pay a return of capital dividend of $60,000 ($30,000 each); the seller would reduce his basis to $0, and only $20,000 would be taxable, while the buyer's basis is reduced to $30,000 with nothing taxable. (In fact, that $30,000 could be in the form of a note, so the buyer doesn't have to have the cash for the short time the transactions would take.) - quote - > Talk to both an accountant AND an attorney in your area to be
Definitely; I have no idea whether my method would actually> sure you are in compliance with all regulatory laws. work, or have the results I suggested. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Vijay Sharma" <SharmaV[at]Sutterhealth.org> wrote - quote - > If I have a basis of $10,000 as a sole owner in an S Corp
The books wouldn't have any financial accounting adjustments.> and I sell my 50% share for $30,000, what would the entries > (accounts and amounts) on the books be? There would need to be some recording in the stock ledger though. What you are doing is selling ~your~ shares. The company is no more a part of that transaction than you selling your Microsoft stock on the market. You'll have a gain or loss on the sale individually, based on the sales price, less your basis in those shares sold. $30,000 - $5,000 = $25,000 gain. Taxed to you personally. Unless you need the cash, personally, have the company issue more shares equal to the number of shares you own (then you'd be 50% owner) and the company has no tax obligation for that cash infusion. Talk to both an accountant AND an attorney in your area to be sure you are in compliance with all regulatory laws. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| If I have a basis of $10,000 as a sole owner in an S Corp and I sell my 50% share for $30,000, what would the entries (accounts and amounts) on the books be? In essence, it seems that I am selling $5,000 of shares (50% of $10,000) for $30,000. Is this a Capital Gain of $25,000? Does this Capital Gain go to Form 1120S (lines 7 or 8 on Schedules K and K-1s ) or does it go to my personal Schedule D of Form 1040 only, bypassing any reporting on Form 1120S, K and K-1s? Is my new basis $5,000? What is the purchaser's basis? Is it $30,000? Is it possible to have equal owners (50% each) with different basis ($5,000 for me and $30,000 for him)? Any help will be highly appreciated. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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