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Old 07-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Steve Pope
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Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> wrote:
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> spope33[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

> > But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a
> > penalty, particularly if your total income is not even
> > throughout the year. If this happens, it is best to have
> > retained certain paycheck stubs so that you can figure out
> > if you can avoid some or all the penalty.


> I don't think so. Payroll withholding is always considered
> to satisfy all the quarterly tax requirements. If you look
> at Form 2210, which is used to compute the underwithholding
> penalty, you'll see that there can't be any penalty if your
> withholding is greater than the tax liability.


I'm not sure about that. Payroll witholding is credited
either evenly per period (regardless of when it is withheld)
or as actually paid per period (if you fill out the long
part of 2210). If you have large non-payroll income in the
first quarter, you can withhold enough total for the year
and still pay a penalty, I think.

Steve

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Old 07-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Steve Pope
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Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> wrote:
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> spope33[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

> > But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a
> > penalty, particularly if your total income is not even
> > throughout the year.


> I don't think so. Payroll withholding is always considered
> to satisfy all the quarterly tax requirements. If you look
> at Form 2210, which is used to compute the underwithholding
> penalty, you'll see that there can't be any penalty if your
> withholding is greater than the tax liability.


You're right. Scratch what I said above.

Steve

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Old 07-05-2006, 02:02 AM
Barry Margolin
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spope33[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

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> But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a
> penalty, particularly if your total income is not even
> throughout the year. If this happens, it is best to have
> retained certain paycheck stubs so that you can figure out
> if you can avoid some or all the penalty.


I don't think so. Payroll withholding is always considered
to satisfy all the quarterly tax requirements. If you look
at Form 2210, which is used to compute the underwithholding
penalty, you'll see that there can't be any penalty if your
withholding is greater than the tax liability.

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Arlington, MA
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Bill Brown
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Yes. You can quite properly do what you suggest.

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Yes it does. If you find in the future that you need to
send in more money, you may have some withheld from her
pension. A form w-4P is to be sent in to the payers.

Missy Doyle

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Steve Pope
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


If you withhold enough, then yes you will not have to pay
anything on Jan 15 or April 15 of the following year.

But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a
penalty, particularly if your total income is not even
throughout the year. If this happens, it is best to have
retained certain paycheck stubs so that you can figure out
if you can avoid some or all the penalty.

These are the paycheck stubs dated on, or on the nearest
earlier date to, March 31, April 15, May 31, June 15, August
31, September 15. (It may be easier just to save them all.)

Steve

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Yes!

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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zyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote Re Can

I overwithhold to avoid filing quarterly?:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Yes

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Sure, as long as you are filing Married Filing Joint,
withholding from either partner is acceptable. Alternately,
she can have withholding taken out of her pension payment.
To do this, she will file a W-4P form with the payor.

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com posted:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving
> pension income. I'm still a wage earner. We'd
> really rather not do quarterly filing on her
> pension payments, and I've calculated that I
> am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this
> get us out of having to do quarterly filing and
> payments, since we will not owe money at the
> end of the tax year?


Yes, that's OK. Their are certain safe havens: For
example, having w/h that totals as much as the previous
year's total tax due (or 110% of amount due, if your AGI
exceeds $150K).

Your wife could also request w/h from her pension payments
-- looking ahead to the days when you're no longer a wage
earner, as could you when that time arrrives.

Bill

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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Yes. The IRS doesn't care whether they receive the tax
quarterly or withheld from every paycheck, as long as they
receive it.

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Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
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<xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
> quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
> calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
> cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
> out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
> will not owe money at the end of the tax year?


Yes.

Also if you prefer, She can have federal income tax (and in
some states, state income tax) withheld from her pension, by
filing form W-4P with her pension payer.

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 07-03-2006, 11:11 PM
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Default Can I overwithhold to avoid filing quarterly?

My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do
quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've
calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to
cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us
out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we
will not owe money at the end of the tax year?

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