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| Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> wrote: - quote - > spope33[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
I'm not sure about that. Payroll witholding is credited> > But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a > > penalty, particularly if your total income is not even > > throughout the year. If this happens, it is best to have > > retained certain paycheck stubs so that you can figure out > > if you can avoid some or all the penalty. > I don't think so. Payroll withholding is always considered > to satisfy all the quarterly tax requirements. If you look > at Form 2210, which is used to compute the underwithholding > penalty, you'll see that there can't be any penalty if your > withholding is greater than the tax liability. either evenly per period (regardless of when it is withheld) or as actually paid per period (if you fill out the long part of 2210). If you have large non-payroll income in the first quarter, you can withhold enough total for the year and still pay a penalty, I think. Steve << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> wrote: - quote - > spope33[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
You're right. Scratch what I said above.> > But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a > > penalty, particularly if your total income is not even > > throughout the year. > I don't think so. Payroll withholding is always considered > to satisfy all the quarterly tax requirements. If you look > at Form 2210, which is used to compute the underwithholding > penalty, you'll see that there can't be any penalty if your > withholding is greater than the tax liability. Steve << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| spope33[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote: - quote - > But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a
I don't think so. Payroll withholding is always considered> penalty, particularly if your total income is not even > throughout the year. If this happens, it is best to have > retained certain paycheck stubs so that you can figure out > if you can avoid some or all the penalty. to satisfy all the quarterly tax requirements. If you look at Form 2210, which is used to compute the underwithholding penalty, you'll see that there can't be any penalty if your withholding is greater than the tax liability. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Yes. You can quite properly do what you suggest.> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Yes it does. If you find in the future that you need to> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? send in more money, you may have some withheld from her pension. A form w-4P is to be sent in to the payers. Missy Doyle << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
If you withhold enough, then yes you will not have to pay> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? anything on Jan 15 or April 15 of the following year. But it can also work out so that you will show as owing a penalty, particularly if your total income is not even throughout the year. If this happens, it is best to have retained certain paycheck stubs so that you can figure out if you can avoid some or all the penalty. These are the paycheck stubs dated on, or on the nearest earlier date to, March 31, April 15, May 31, June 15, August 31, September 15. (It may be easier just to save them all.) Steve << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Yes!> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| zyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote Re Can I overwithhold to avoid filing quarterly?: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Yes> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? -- To email me directly, remove CLUTTER. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Sure, as long as you are filing Married Filing Joint,> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? withholding from either partner is acceptable. Alternately, she can have withholding taken out of her pension payment. To do this, she will file a W-4P form with the payor. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com posted: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving
Yes, that's OK. Their are certain safe havens: For> pension income. I'm still a wage earner. We'd > really rather not do quarterly filing on her > pension payments, and I've calculated that I > am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this > get us out of having to do quarterly filing and > payments, since we will not owe money at the > end of the tax year? example, having w/h that totals as much as the previous year's total tax due (or 110% of amount due, if your AGI exceeds $150K). Your wife could also request w/h from her pension payments -- looking ahead to the days when you're no longer a wage earner, as could you when that time arrrives. Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Yes. The IRS doesn't care whether they receive the tax> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? quarterly or withheld from every paycheck, as long as they receive it. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <xyzzy.dude[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income.
Yes.> I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do > quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've > calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to > cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us > out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we > will not owe money at the end of the tax year? Also if you prefer, She can have federal income tax (and in some states, state income tax) withheld from her pension, by filing form W-4P with her pension payer. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My wife recently retired, and is receiving pension income. I'm still a wage earner. We'd really rather not do quarterly filing on her pension payments, and I've calculated that I am overwithholding enough on my wages to cover the tax liability on her pension. Does this get us out of having to do quarterly filing and payments, since we will not owe money at the end of the tax year? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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