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| Bill Brown wrote: - quote - > Vikeman wrote:
I am not aware of anything in the IRC that requires only> > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4). > > While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > > tax deductible based on some research done by our > > accountant. > > > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? > > It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > > listed, or is there another procedure? > Only donations to 501c(3) organizations and governments > (federal, state, local) are tax deductible as charitable > contributions. So, yes, you have to change what you are to > become a qualified organization. donations to Sec. 501(c)(3) organizations to be deductible. Charitable contribution deductions are defined in IRC Sec. 170(c) not 501(c). A contribution to a Sec. 501(c)(4) organization qualifies as being deductible as long as the organization meets the definition and use of funds in accordance with Sec. 170(c). << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Vikeman wrote: - quote - > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4).
Only public charities that are exempt from tax under> While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > tax deductible based on some research done by our > accountant. > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? > It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > listed, or is there another procedure? 501(c)(3) are eligible to be listed in Pub 78. I'm curious about the authority your accountant found that would allow a charitable deduction for a donation to a 501(c)(4) organization. Under Code section 170(c), charitable deductions are normally only allowed for the following: 1. Gifts to units of government for public purposes 2. Gifts to 501(c)(3) organizations 3. Gifts to veterans' posts 4. Gifts to fraternal lodges for charitable purpose 5. Gifts to nonprofit cemetery companies The volunteer fire board wouldn't seem to fit into any of these. Under Code section 6113(a), a solicitation for contributions from a 501(c)(4) organization generally must contain an express statement that contributions or gifts to the organization are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes. --Chris << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Vikeman wrote: - quote - > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4).
Only donations to 501c(3) organizations and governments> While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > tax deductible based on some research done by our > accountant. > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? > It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > listed, or is there another procedure? (federal, state, local) are tax deductible as charitable contributions. So, yes, you have to change what you are to become a qualified organization. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Vikeman wrote: - quote - > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4).
IRS Help With Tax Questions> While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > tax deductible based on some research done by our > accountant. > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? > It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > listed, or is there another procedure? You can ask the IRS (as above) on this site http://www.irs.gov/help/page/0,,id=120294,00.html Milt Baker CPA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Vikeman" <chuck[at]mobraten.net> wrote: - quote - > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4).
Contributions to 501(c)(4) organizations are NEVER> While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > tax deductible based on some research done by our > accountant. deductible unless they are qualified business expenses. You might be able to accept deductible contributions if it's an arm of a municipality. - quote - > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78?
You have to change to a (c)(3). It's a whole different IRS> It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > listed, or is there another procedure? form, and is not quite as easy to get. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Vikeman wrote: - quote - > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4).
To be listed in Pub. 78 usually requires the granting of> While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > tax deductible based on some research done by our > accountant. > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? > It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > listed, or is there another procedure? 501(c)(3) status by the Service. Your organization, however, even as a 501(c)(4) is eligible under the terms of Revenue Ruling 74-361. In that RR, it was implied a volunteer fire company should apply for exempt status (for charitable purposes) using Form 1023. But given that RR is over 30 years old, I recommend you contact the specialists in the TE/GE Division of the IRS to determine the current requirements for recognition of a 501(c)(4) with a view to allowing for deductible contributions. In the alternative, deductible donations may be directed to the political subdivision most closely affiliated with your fire company, as all government agencies are per se charities under IRC 170A and need not be listed in Pub. 78. Tim << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| AlVikeman wrote: - quote - > I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4).
See Part II of the Pub 78 Help> While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax > deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that > contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE > tax deductible based on some research done by our > accountant. > My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? > It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there > currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be > listed, or is there another procedure? (http://www.irs.gov/charities/charita...134331,00.html) where it states that nonprofit volunteer fire companies are qualified organizations under IRC Sec. 170(c). << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I am treasurer for a volunteer fire board who is a 501c(4). While I realize not all contributions to 501c(4)'s are tax deductible by the donees, it is my understanding that contributions to volunteer fire departments such as ours ARE tax deductible based on some research done by our accountant. My question is how do we get listed in IRS publication 78? It appears that only 501c(3) organizations are listed there currently. Must we change our filing status to 501c(3) to be listed, or is there another procedure? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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