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| rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed away.There
In the last part of the first paragrah I think you meant> originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the > house to the son and the remaining investments would be > split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth > originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son > who is to inherit the house > The attorney has informed them that the trust cannot be > changed..?? Is this true..Is there a alternate plan that can > be set up so that the son inherits the house free of > obligation to the daughter..Or is there a alternate way to > change the trust so the distribution of the assets can be > changed to compensate for the $150.000. Alternatively is > there way to change trust to protect the son if there is not > enough money to cover the remaining assets..?? *by* the son who inherits the house, not *to* him. There are always ( or should be) provisions in a trust to divide in cash or kind. Since the house was originally not willed to anyone specifically, but was presumed to be divided equally with all other assets, mother (the executor) can do whatever she wants in dividing assets equitable, and/or is agreeable to all the heirs. The trust cannot, and need not, be changed. Mother, however, can do whatever she wants with her 1/2 of the total estate, since she owned that 1/2 or everything, and still does. She can pay the trust $150K for the husband's 1/2 and take the house entirely for herself, and give it to the son. The key is *equitable division*. ed << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed away.There
I don't understand.> originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the > house to the son and the remaining investments would be > split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth > originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son > who is to inherit the house Originally, it was all supposed to be split evenly? Now, the mother wants the house to go to the son, and the rest to be split evenly? Or the house goes to the son, the daughter gets the house's cost (or value) out of the rest, and the remainder is split evenly? Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed away.There
The terms of the trust were;> originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the > house to the son and the remaining investments would be > split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth > originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son > who is to inherit the house > The attorney has informed them that the trust cannot be > changed..?? Is this true..Is there a alternate plan that can > be set up so that the son inherits the house free of > obligation to the daughter..Or is there a alternate way to > change the trust so the distribution of the assets can be > changed to compensate for the $150.000. Alternatively is > there way to change trust to protect the son if there is not > enough money to cover the remaining assets..?? "All assets to be split betweeen the two kids". Right? Now, it seems the mother would prefer to leave the house to the son, but split the remaining assets between the kids? It sounds like the daughter is about to get the short end of the stick. The answer is, "it depends." I assume the mother lives in the house until she dies, then the trust distributes the asets. Does she retain any rights beyond that? If the trust allows her to spend down assets as she wishes, and borrow against the house, she may be able to deplete the trust of its assets. But, a properly worded trust would allow no borrowing against the home and limited withdrawal rights against any such principle. The trust documents need to be reviewed very carefully. Sounds like dad was fair but mom is pro-son. JOE << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed away.There
This is not a tax-related question, you need to talk to your> originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the > house to the son and the remaining investments would be > split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth > originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son > who is to inherit the house > The attorney has informed them that the trust cannot be > changed..?? Is this true..Is there a alternate plan that can > be set up so that the son inherits the house free of > obligation to the daughter..Or is there a alternate way to > change the trust so the distribution of the assets can be > changed to compensate for the $150.000. Alternatively is > there way to change trust to protect the son if there is not > enough money to cover the remaining assets..?? attorney or post on misc.legal.moderated << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed away.There
Normally when a trust is set up it can be amended or revoked> originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the > house to the son and the remaining investments would be > split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth > originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son > who is to inherit the house > The attorney has informed them that the trust cannot be > changed..?? Is this true.. by (but only by) the people who set it up. When those people die the trust is irrevocable because there's no one else around who has the power to change it. When a couple create a trust and one dies, that spouse's portion goes into a separate trust, and that part of the trust becomes revocable because it was his property and nobody else has the power to amend or revoke the plan he set up for his property after he dies. There are other ways that trusts are drafted, but I'd have to read yours before I could tell you if it varies from the general rule. - quote - > Is there a alternate plan that can
If the father's portion of the trust was set up so that> be set up so that the son inherits the house free of > obligation to the daughter.. mother had a testementary special power of appointment, she can do with it what she wants. If not, she can't. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed away.There
There's no way anyone here knows. Only a lawyer who knows> originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the > house to the son and the remaining investments would be > split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth > originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son > who is to inherit the house > The attorney has informed them that the trust cannot be > changed..?? Is this true.. what the trust's provisions are can tell you. If you want a second opinion, take it to another lawyer. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| rshimizu12[at]yahoo.com posted: - quote - > The couple was married and the father passed
The standard advice related to "Living Trusts" (revocable> away.There originally was a trust, but the > mother decided to leave the house to the son > and the remaining investments would be split > between the son and daughter.. The house > was worth originally 300,000 so $150,000 > would have to paid to the son who is to inherit > the house > The attorney has informed them that the trust > cannot be changed..?? Is this true..Is there a > alternate plan that can be set up so that the > son inherits the house free of obligation to the > daughter..Or is there a alternate way to > change the trust so the distribution of the > assets can be changed to compensate for the > $150.000. Alternatively is there way to change > trust to protect the son if there is not enough > money to cover the remaining assets..?? living trusts) is that they become _irrevocable_ upon the death of the individual in whose name they have been created -- i.e., the John Smith Trust becomes irrevocable upon the death of John, even though his wife Mary survives as one of the trustees. I'll be interested in seeing if there are any "Philadelphia Lawyer" ways around this that get posted. Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| The couple was married and the father passed away.There originally was a trust, but the mother decided to leave the house to the son and the remaining investments would be split between the son and daughter.. The house was worth originally 300,000 so $150,000 would have to paid to the son who is to inherit the house The attorney has informed them that the trust cannot be changed..?? Is this true..Is there a alternate plan that can be set up so that the son inherits the house free of obligation to the daughter..Or is there a alternate way to change the trust so the distribution of the assets can be changed to compensate for the $150.000. Alternatively is there way to change trust to protect the son if there is not enough money to cover the remaining assets..?? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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