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| Ed Zollars <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > Drew Edmundson wrote:
I don't think headliners have any precedential value.> > IRS Headliner 163 discusses individual health policies and > > the self employed health deduction in the context of S > > Corporations. > I think the headliner has some real issues, since it ignores > Revenue Ruling 61-146. As well, in the hierarchy of > authority, this falls somewhat below the CCA it clarifies > (and a CCA is pretty low already <grin> ). > That is, my position is that if the company meets the > requirements of Revenue Procedure 61-146, then individual > policies can be used. Now, as we've discussed in other > venues, there may be state law insurance issues in some > states with an employer plan constructed as outlined in > Revenue Ruling 61-146, but that is another issue. > So my take is that unless the IRS withdraws Revenue Ruling > 61-146, it trumps this headliner (Revenue Rulings are a lot > higher in the authority hierarchy <grin> ). However I thought it was an interesting article, nonetheless. Veering a bit off course but still in the SE Health arena, I found Speltz, T.C. Summary 2006-25 to be interesting. I just have to wonder why IRS tried this one. I wish all my clients were this fastidious in keeping records. --- Drew Edmundson, CPA Cary, NC << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Drew Edmundson wrote: - quote - > IRS Headliner 163 discusses individual health policies and
The author of those "Headliners" was wise to duck any> the self employed health deduction in the context of S > Corporations. > http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...157049,00.html > http://snipurl.com/r48r > Please note that Headliners are not citeable as authority. authority. The S corporation's established "Plan" is to provide and/or pay the premiums for health insurance for it's employees whereever obtained. and there is nothing in the statute that requires the policy be titled in the S-corp's name. "Assuming there are no other subsidized health plans, the problem arises if the sole shareholder/ employee purchases the health insurance in his or her own name instead of that of the S corporation. In that case, the S corporation has not established a plan to provide medical care coverage, there is no fringe benefit paid to the 2% shareholder and the provisions of IRC =A71372 do not come into play. Since the provisions of =A71372 do not come into play, the S corporation is not treated as a partnership and the shareholder is not treated as a partner. Since the shareholder is not treated as a partner, the shareholder is not treated as self-employed and is not eligible for the above-the-line deduction treatment under IRC =A7162(l). The shareholder is still able to deduct the health insurance as an itemized deduction which is subject to the 7.5% AGI limitation." << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| rew Edmundson wrote: - quote - > IRS Headliner 163 discusses individual health policies and
I think the headliner has some real issues, since it ignores> the self employed health deduction in the context of S > Corporations. Revenue Ruling 61-146. As well, in the hierarchy of authority, this falls somewhat below the CCA it clarifies (and a CCA is pretty low already <grin> ). That is, my position is that if the company meets the requirements of Revenue Procedure 61-146, then individual policies can be used. Now, as we've discussed in other venues, there may be state law insurance issues in some states with an employer plan constructed as outlined in Revenue Ruling 61-146, but that is another issue. So my take is that unless the IRS withdraws Revenue Ruling 61-146, it trumps this headliner (Revenue Rulings are a lot higher in the authority hierarchy <grin> ). -- Ed Zollars, CPA Podcast located at http://ezollars.libsyn.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| IRS Headliner 163 discusses individual health policies and the self employed health deduction in the context of S Corporations. http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...157049,00.html http://snipurl.com/r48r Please note that Headliners are not citeable as authority. --- Drew Edmundson, CPA Cary, NC << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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