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| Seth Breidbart <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote: - quote - > Nan, EA in LA <126advrc34die66[at]corp.supernews.com> wrote:
They backed down this year.> > But short term begins: 36 pages of trades available. > > Purchased 1/2/05, sold 12/30/05. And the total sales price > > and the total cost. So far both IRS and FTB have accepted > > it. I very much doubt they want to plow through 36 pages of > > Schedule D-1 any more than I do. He leaves a copy with me > > (it's in the proper format) and we're both prepared to > > submit a copy if asked. > An earlier thread suggested that this year they want the full > data; however, just sending a copy of the pages you have would > do fine. (If he files electronically, he should have the data > available that way so it can be imported.) If the printouts were in the same format as a D-1, then you can just enter "See attached summary" on the schedule D and enter the column totals for short and long terms trades. Then attach as many pages as needed of trades to the 8453. Mail. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Nan, EA in LA <126advrc34die66[at]corp.supernews.com> wrote: - quote - > But short term begins: 36 pages of trades available.
An earlier thread suggested that this year they want the full> Purchased 1/2/05, sold 12/30/05. And the total sales price > and the total cost. So far both IRS and FTB have accepted > it. I very much doubt they want to plow through 36 pages of > Schedule D-1 any more than I do. He leaves a copy with me > (it's in the proper format) and we're both prepared to > submit a copy if asked. data; however, just sending a copy of the pages you have would do fine. (If he files electronically, he should have the data available that way so it can be imported.) Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I have a client who does a LOT of short term trading. He presents me with a print out of 30 to 36 pages. We have, for the last 3 years, done electronic filing with his dozen or so long term sales entered properly. But short term begins: 36 pages of trades available. Purchased 1/2/05, sold 12/30/05. And the total sales price and the total cost. So far both IRS and FTB have accepted it. I very much doubt they want to plow through 36 pages of Schedule D-1 any more than I do. He leaves a copy with me (it's in the proper format) and we're both prepared to submit a copy if asked. I do like a sensible client. He likes a sensible preparer. I guess the powers that be are happy too..... Nan, EA in LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <deja_bhoot2000[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I have a short term bond mutual fund at Vanguard, into which
Not to quibble, but this doesn't sound like an emergency> I contribute $1000 per month. I use this account as my > emergency fund (the net yield is a bit better than money > market), and the balance floats between 10K and 20K. > During 2005 calendar year, I withdrew money from this by > writing checks -- about 10 checks, fund. OTOH, maybe you lead a very precarious life. - quote - > each ranging in amount
Yes.> from 1K oto 10K. Each check constitutes "sale" of certain > number of mutual fund shares, which may have been purchased > at various times. How do I handle this on the chedule D? > 1. I know that for stocks, I can enter "Various" for date > acquired. Can I do this for mutual funds as well? - quote - > 2. What about date sold? Can I put in "Various" for this as
No. You must list each sale separately.> well? <snip - quote - > 4. Since the purchase is via ACH/monthly, and sale (via
Yes. If a sale is at a loss, the wash sale rule will apply> check-writing) is at random intervals, are there any wash > sale implications? since you'll clearly be buying replacement shares within the wash sale window. - quote - > The net gain/loss is small (less than 2K gain, on a tax
Well, since this sounds like more of a "stash" for peiodic> filing that will cover more than 200K in income, and 80K in > taxes.) Do I really need to make 30 line entries on schedule > D and D1 to take care of such small gain? Any short cuts? expenses too large to pay from one month's income, e.g., property taxes, insurance, vacations, etc., rather than an emergency fund, you might want to revisit keeping it in this type of investment. What you're balancing is the increased yield (don't forget expenses) vs. tax return hassle. I prefer keeping my stash in a MM account at the bank, producing one tax return entry. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| deja_bhoot2000[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > I have a short term bond mutual fund at Vanguard, into which
Yes, you can do this with any type of security.> I contribute $1000 per month. I use this account as my > emergency fund (the net yield is a bit better than money > market), and the balance floats between 10K and 20K. > During 2005 calendar year, I withdrew money from this by > writing checks -- about 10 checks, each ranging in amount > from 1K oto 10K. Each check constitutes "sale" of certain > number of mutual fund shares, which may have been purchased > at various times. How do I handle this on the chedule D? > 1. I know that for stocks, I can enter "Various" for date > acquired. Can I do this for mutual funds as well? - quote - > 2. What about date sold? Can I put in "Various" for this as
No, you can't use Various for date sold. The IRS receives a> well? Vanguard has provided me an itemized summary of each > purchase, and a net summary of long term/short term > gain/loss for the whole year, on addendum to 1099B. copy of the 1099-B for each sale, and they want to match these against the entries on your Schedule D. - quote - > 3. Can I just make two entries on the schedule D, one for
See 2.> long term and one for short term, listing both date acquired > and date sold as "Various"? Or do I need to list each sale > separately? - quote - > 4. Since the purchase is via ACH/monthly, and sale (via
If any of the sales were at a loss, probably. You'll need> check-writing) is at random intervals, are there any wash > sale implications? to add the loss to the cost basis of the remaining shares. - quote - > The net gain/loss is small (less than 2K gain, on a tax
Sorry, you do. If you have your data in a personal finance> filing that will cover more than 200K in income, and 80K in > taxes.) Do I really need to make 30 line entries on schedule > D and D1 to take care of such small gain? Any short cuts? program you may be able to get it to print out a statement that you can attach. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| deja_bhoot2000[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > I have a short term bond mutual fund at Vanguard, into which
Yes, but make certain that you have separated long from short> I contribute $1000 per month. I use this account as my > emergency fund (the net yield is a bit better than money > market), and the balance floats between 10K and 20K. > During 2005 calendar year, I withdrew money from this by > writing checks -- about 10 checks, each ranging in amount > from 1K oto 10K. Each check constitutes "sale" of certain > number of mutual fund shares, which may have been purchased > at various times. How do I handle this on the chedule D? > 1. I know that for stocks, I can enter "Various" for date > acquired. Can I do this for mutual funds as well? term. - quote - > 2. What about date sold? Can I put in "Various" for this as
No. Various is not acceptable for the sold date.> well? Vanguard has provided me an itemized summary of each > purchase, and a net summary of long term/short term > gain/loss for the whole year, on addendum to 1099B. - quote - > 3. Can I just make two entries on the schedule D, one for
Answered as no (see #2).> long term and one for short term, listing both date acquired > and date sold as "Various"? Or do I need to list each sale > separately? - quote - > 4. Since the purchase is via ACH/monthly, and sale (via
There may be.> check-writing) is at random intervals, are there any wash > sale implications? - quote - > The net gain/loss is small (less than 2K gain, on a tax
Probably. The IRS matching of 1099-B's to schedule D is> filing that will cover more than 200K in income, and 80K in > taxes.) Do I really need to make 30 line entries on schedule > D and D1 to take care of such small gain? Any short cuts? unforgiving. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I have a short term bond mutual fund at Vanguard, into which I contribute $1000 per month. I use this account as my emergency fund (the net yield is a bit better than money market), and the balance floats between 10K and 20K. During 2005 calendar year, I withdrew money from this by writing checks -- about 10 checks, each ranging in amount from 1K oto 10K. Each check constitutes "sale" of certain number of mutual fund shares, which may have been purchased at various times. How do I handle this on the chedule D? 1. I know that for stocks, I can enter "Various" for date acquired. Can I do this for mutual funds as well? 2. What about date sold? Can I put in "Various" for this as well? Vanguard has provided me an itemized summary of each purchase, and a net summary of long term/short term gain/loss for the whole year, on addendum to 1099B. 3. Can I just make two entries on the schedule D, one for long term and one for short term, listing both date acquired and date sold as "Various"? Or do I need to list each sale separately? 4. Since the purchase is via ACH/monthly, and sale (via check-writing) is at random intervals, are there any wash sale implications? The net gain/loss is small (less than 2K gain, on a tax filing that will cover more than 200K in income, and 80K in taxes.) Do I really need to make 30 line entries on schedule D and D1 to take care of such small gain? Any short cuts? Bhoot << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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