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| "It's Deductible" software values prescription reading glasses at $10 for good condition (my eyes change every few months), $7.00 for fair condition (my insurance entitles me to a new presecription and new frames every two years so I'm getting new ones), and $1.50 for poor condition (these ole ratty glasses make me look like Dame Edna and don't see so good either). Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <purduephotog[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > Prescription glasses are just that- you can't buy them at a
There are groups that take glasses. Lions Clubs for starters.> thrift store (I called a few and they won't take the items). > That leaves the FMV in limbo for determination by that > method. A Google search turns up more. In fact, May is "Recycle for Sight" month. Contact your local chapter of Lions International. http://www.lionsclubs.org -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "San Diego CPA" <gcollect1[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote - quote - > Don't forget that the charitable deductions are limited to > the lower of FMV or basis. Others have given opinions about > FMV but if your glasses are fully covered or reimbursed > through insurance, you may have zero basis in them. I don't agree with that as it stands. If I pay the premiums, then by default, I paid for the glasses. So I have basis in them of some amount. Now, if the glasses or the insurance premiums were deducted as a medical expense on Schedule A, or bought pre-tax through a medical reimbursement plan, then I don't see where there would be any room to take a second deduction just because your eyes got worse. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Thank you Paul- Prescription glasses are just that- you can't buy them at a thrift store (I called a few and they won't take the items). That leaves the FMV in limbo for determination by that method. I applied what I believed to be a logical step in the reduction of prices- if there is no market for an item and said item can only be prescribed... that means the price will be fairly high. In one donation site it quoted a FMV of 195$- still sounds high, but that's why I'm searching. The $3K is realized at the thrift shop pricing for items. There is ALOT of junk in this house that has been 'recommended' for immediate removal by my wife. Heh heh heh.. Thank you again- I'll try contacting a few more places for additional information. Jason << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Thank you Paul- Prescription glasses are just that- you can't buy them at a thrift store (I called a few and they won't take the items). That leaves the FMV in limbo for determination by that method. I applied what I believed to be a logical step in the reduction of prices- if there is no market for an item and said item can only be prescribed... that means the price will be fairly high. In one donation site it quoted a FMV of 195$- still sounds high, but that's why I'm searching. The $3K is realized at the thrift shop pricing for items. There is ALOT of junk in this house that has been 'recommended' for immediate removal by my wife. Heh heh heh.. Thank you again- I'll try contacting a few more places for additional information. Jason << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <purduephotog[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > As I am recently married, my wife and I are consolidating
Don't forget that the charitable deductions are limited to> our possessions. I expect to finish off the year with at > least $3000 in non-cash charitable contributions... and, > while fully expecting to be audited would like to minimize > the risk that they will disagree with the amounts I've > claimed. > That having been said, I can find no information as to what > a standard fair market value for a pair of donated > eyeglasses might be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may > cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they > have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' to > be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. > Any suggestions as to where I might start for this? the lower of FMV or basis. Others have given opinions about FMV but if your glasses are fully covered or reimbursed through insurance, you may have zero basis in them. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Bob Sandler <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Cost and lifetime have nothing to do with fair market value.
The last time I got glasses it was hard to find frames for> The fair market value is what you could sell them for. How > much would they sell for in a thrift shop, or if you listed > them on eBay? Probably not much, especially if they are made > to your personal prescription. under $200. I imagine that if someone wanted to collect used frames for resale, he could get at least half the original price. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Since I can get two pairs plus exam at the local discount chain for $79; discounting for age, I'd say about $10-$15. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <purduephotog[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > As I am recently married, my wife and I are consolidating
Why do you think a pair of glasses only last 1 - 2 years?> our possessions. I expect to finish off the year with at > least $3000 in non-cash charitable contributions... and, > while fully expecting to be audited would like to minimize > the risk that they will disagree with the amounts I've > claimed. > That having been said, I can find no information as to what > a standard fair market value for a pair of donated > eyeglasses might be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may > cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they > have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' to > be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. Just because ~your eyes~ deteriorate doesn't mean the glasses are bad. A few nicks and scratches yes, but the lens doesn't go out of focus. Hinges are the most apt to cause concern. In any event, ask your optomitrist what they are worth. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > That having been said, I can find no information as to what
Cost and lifetime have nothing to do with fair market value.> a standard fair market value for a pair of donated > eyeglasses might be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may > cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they > have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' to > be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. The fair market value is what you could sell them for. How much would they sell for in a thrift shop, or if you listed them on eBay? Probably not much, especially if they are made to your personal prescription. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| purduephotog[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > That having been said, I can find no information as to what
You might ask a charity like New Eyes for the Needy> a standard fair market value for a pair of donated > eyeglasses might be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may > cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they > have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' to > be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. > Any suggestions as to where I might start for this? <http://www.neweyesfortheneedy.org> which accepts donations of used eyeglasses. -- D.F. Manno | dfmanno[at]mail.com I don't trust organized anything: teams, religions, corporations. People in enterprise together consistently do two things: promulgate the enterprise, no matter what, and protect miscreants in their midst. (Alfred Lubrano) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| purduephotog[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > As I am recently married, my wife and I are consolidating
I think the FMV is close to zero for used eyeglasses.> our possessions. I expect to finish off the year with at > least $3000 in non-cash charitable contributions... and, > while fully expecting to be audited would like to minimize > the risk that they will disagree with the amounts I've > claimed. > That having been said, I can find no information as to what > a standard fair market value for a pair of donated > eyeglasses might be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may > cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they > have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' to > be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. > Any suggestions as to where I might start for this? Donated eyeglasses are not sold, they are given to the needy. Find a market if you can to determine the value. I don't believe one exists except for antique frames or designer frames. Try selling your glasses on eBay to find the value. FMV is what a willing seller will accept from a willing buyer. Don in Colorado << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| purduephotog[at]gmail.com (Jason) posted a question on valuation of property donated. I neglected to add the standard reference which will answer most of his questions: Pub 561 - Household Goods. This has information on valuation of household goods such as furniture, appliances and linens. But Fair Market Value is the key factor to keep in mind, always. Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| purduephotog[at]gmail.com posted: - quote - > As I am recently married, my wife and I are
Well, you should first understand that you can only deduct> consolidating our possessions. I expect to > finish off the year with at least $3000 in > non-cash charitable contributions... and, while > fully expecting to be audited would like to > minimize the risk that they will disagree with > the amounts I've claimed. > That having been said, I can find no > information as to what a standard fair market > value for a pair of donated eyeglasses might > be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may cost > easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and > they have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would > expect the 'value' to be somewhere around > 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. > Any suggestions as to where I might start for > this? the Fair Market Value (FMV) -- which the IRS defines as what that item would bring if sold "as is" on the open market. For eyeglasses, that would mean you have to compare with the frames which are sold in drug stores/discounted for any prescription lens you required (which would have to be replaced, since the likelihood of someone needing the exact same refraction as you, is infinitesimal). My guess would be more like $5 - $10, _max. You're in for a rude awakening at audit time, if you go in with the valuation technique you described. What a nationally-franchised store receives at retail for a product bears _no_ resemblance to FMV for the same product in a thrift shop. With your technique of valuation, you would be chewed up and spit out -- and if you've deducted $3,000 "worth," as you suggest, you'll likely be receiving a tax deficiency determination for at least $400 up to $1,000+ (depending on your bracket). One suggestion: Visit a thrift shop -- one operated by Goodwill Industries, for example. See how they're pricing equivalent goods. At the very least, go to a Dollar Store. See how ordinary people are able to buy an incredible assortment of goods for $1 - flat pricing. Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| purduephotog[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Realizing that a pair of glasses may
Value is probably near zero. Prescription lenses are worth> cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they > have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' > to be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. nothing, and a peek at eBay listings shows me used designer, antique, and vintage frames like $25 tops. For value of common items, picture yourself shopping at a yard sale. Offer $200 for these glasses, and the homeowner might give you the ratty lawn mower and the baby stroller as a thank you! The other items you said are worth $3000 total need to be valued realistically also, and this question hints you may be a bit optimistic in these matters. Fred F. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| As I am recently married, my wife and I are consolidating our possessions. I expect to finish off the year with at least $3000 in non-cash charitable contributions... and, while fully expecting to be audited would like to minimize the risk that they will disagree with the amounts I've claimed. That having been said, I can find no information as to what a standard fair market value for a pair of donated eyeglasses might be. Realizing that a pair of glasses may cost easily in excess of 250$ at Lense Crafters and they have a lifetime of 1-2 years, I would expect the 'value' to be somewhere around 175-200$ given depreciation and 'use'. Any suggestions as to where I might start for this? Thank you, Jason (I'm going to add a few more 'search terms' so should anyone search like I did they'll find at least one post) (donate eyeglasses eyewear glasses eye wear) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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