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| "Stuart A. Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> writes: - quote - > I always thought you could get individual shares from any
You can, but the costs are less reasonable these days.> stock broker. When my son was young I got him five shares > each of Disney and McDonalds. There was no problem doing > so, and the transaction costs were reasonable. Sure, the commission is likely to only be $10-$15 these days, but at least with the big name brokers, they charge around $50 to certificate and ship the shares to you. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Dennis Marks" <denmarks[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > OneShare.com is not a stock broker. They are allowed to
I always thought you could get individual shares from any> handle the stock transfer due to the fact that they sell > stock as a novelty, they only sell single shares, and the > shares are framed. They were given this exemption to the > broker rules by the government. stock broker. When my son was young I got him five shares each of Disney and McDonalds. There was no problem doing so, and the transaction costs were reasonable. - quote - > The reason I asked about reporting is that any dividend
Quarterly dividends on five shares of McDonalds stock were> would probably be less than a dollar. Would the stock > registrar even report such a small amount? I will probably > never sell the stock unless it has gone up astronomically so > capital gains are probably of no concern. routinely under one dollar. But the checks were always sent, even if the stamp on the envelope was more than the amount written on the check. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote: - quote - > denmarks[at]yahoo.com (Dennis Marks) writes:
Dreamworks Animation was spun off of Dreamworks a couple of> [original poster buys single share of stock and > has certificate sent to him] > > Stock $27 > > Transfer fee $31.01 > > Shipping $7.99 > > Total $66 > [snip] > First question -- does DreamWorks even exist as a > separate company anymore? Didn't Paramount or Sony> gobble it up? > > My question is what is my cost basis? > That's an interesting question. The naive (but still quite > possibly correct) answer is $66. Does OneShare require you > to take the physical certificate, or could you have left it > on deposit with OneShare and saved the $39 of transfer and > shipping fees? > > If I ever did sell it how much would the gain have to be before it > > has to be reported? > You have to report the sale regardless of what your gain or > loss is. You report it on Sched D and (also on Sched D) > compute your gain or loss on the sale. > > If I receive dividends, at what point does it have to be reported? > Right from the very beginning. There's *no* "I don't have > to report dividends until I get back what I paid for the > stock" rule. years ago. It is a separate corporation. OneShare.com is not a stock broker. They are allowed to handle the stock transfer due to the fact that they sell stock as a novelty, they only sell single shares, and the shares are framed. They were given this exemption to the broker rules by the government. The reason I asked about reporting is that any dividend would probably be less than a dollar. Would the stock registrar even report such a small amount? I will probably never sell the stock unless it has gone up astronomically so capital gains are probably of no concern. -- Dennis Disclaimer: The above is my opinion. I do not guarantee it. Be sure to back up any files involved and use at your own risk. Batteries not included. Not for internal use. Don't run with knives. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote: - quote - > Does OneShare require you
Why would anyone buy from them *except* to get the physical> to take the physical certificate, or could you have left it > on deposit with OneShare and saved the $39 of transfer and > shipping fees? certificate? For instance, many people buy Disney stock because their stock certificates are a work of art, suitable for framing. If he didn't want the certificate, he presumably could have bought the stock through a normal broker and avoided those outrageous fees. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote: - quote - > denmarks[at]yahoo.com (Dennis Marks) writes:
And incurred a $40 per year cost for maintaining a brokerage> > My question is what is my cost basis? > That's an interesting question. The naive (but still quite > possibly correct) answer is $66. Does OneShare require you > to take the physical certificate, or could you have left it > on deposit with OneShare and saved the $39 of transfer and > shipping fees? account that doesn't have any activity. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dennis Marks <denmarks[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I purchased one share of stock from OneShare.com as a
It looks like $66.> novelty. > Stock $27 > Transfer fee $31.01 > Shipping $7.99 > Total $66 > My question is what is my cost basis? - quote - > If I ever did sell it how much would the gain have to be
The sale must be reported, the amount of gain affects the> before it has to be reported? amount of tax you owe, but not the requirement to report. (If your total income is low enough you might not have to file at all.) - quote - > If I receive dividends, at what point does it
If you have to file, all dividends have to be reported.> have to be reported? Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| denmarks[at]yahoo.com (Dennis=A0Marks) posted: - quote - > I purchased one share of stock from
That's easy: $66 (what it cost you)> OneShare.com as a novelty. I was issued an > actual stock certificate. I will probably never > sell it but I would just like to know the answer > to the following since I like trivia. > The stock is DreamWorks Animation. The > charge was $27 for the stock (which was > pretty close to the actual price), $39 transfer > fee, and $7.99 shipping. I had a discount code > for free shipping but what they did was > actually take $7.99 off the transfer fee. > Stock $27 > Transfer fee $31.01 > Shipping $7.99 > Total $66 > I received a W-9 from the transfer agent and > returned it. I never received anything from a > stock broker. I assume that OneShare.com > buys large lots of stock and then just has > single shares transferred as needed. > My question is what is my cost basis? - quote - > If I ever did sell it how much would the gain
Reporting would be required, regardless -- to show your> have to be before it has to be reported? proceeds from the sale, and the result might be a gain, a loss or -0-, depending on the proceeds amount vs the cost. - quote - > If I receive dividends, at what point does it
Anything you receive as a dividend theoretically has to be> have to be reported? reported -- unless it's below 50 cents. .50 and up would become $1, etc. (I actually once saw a 40-cent dividend reported on a separate 1099-DIV, which I ignored.) Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| denmarks[at]yahoo.com (Dennis Marks) writes: [original poster buys single share of stock and has certificate sent to him] - quote - > Stock $27
[snip]> Transfer fee $31.01 > Shipping $7.99 > Total $66 First question -- does DreamWorks even exist as a separate company anymore? Didn't Paramount or Sonygobble it up? - quote - > My question is what is my cost basis?
That's an interesting question. The naive (but still quitepossibly correct) answer is $66. Does OneShare require you to take the physical certificate, or could you have left it on deposit with OneShare and saved the $39 of transfer and shipping fees? - quote - > If I ever did sell it how much would the gain have to be before it
You have to report the sale regardless of what your gain or> has to be reported? loss is. You report it on Sched D and (also on Sched D) compute your gain or loss on the sale. - quote - > If I receive dividends, at what point does it have to be reported?
Right from the very beginning. There's *no* "I don't haveto report dividends until I get back what I paid for the stock" rule. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > Stock $27
My first wife adamantly insisted on possession of the stock> Transfer fee $31.01 > Shipping $7.99 > Total $66 > My question is what is my cost basis? certificate. It was a family tradition for her. I dismissed it, but tolerated it, as a subculture paranoia. Then a major brokerage firm had its doors padlocked. The Stock and the transfer fee (which I suspect is really the commission and internal costs) go into the basis. Shipping a piece of paper should not cost $7.99, but you paid it as part of the purchase and I would put it in the basis - others may disagree. But it is diminimus. You have no deduction in the current year. You will pay taxes on the dividends, if any, as you receive them or are credited with them, i.e., a DRIP. Divendends reinvested via a DRIP increase basis because you paid taxes on them in the appropriate taxt year. Someone buy one share of stock at 2.44 times its value is not in this for the money. My suggestion is do not sell it until it gets to $300 because the selling costs are going to be outrageous. Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I purchased one share of stock from OneShare.com as a novelty. I was issued an actual stock certificate. I will probably never sell it but I would just like to know the answer to the following since I like trivia. The stock is DreamWorks Animation. The charge was $27 for the stock (which was pretty close to the actual price), $39 transfer fee, and $7.99 shipping. I had a discount code for free shipping but what they did was actually take $7.99 off the transfer fee. Stock $27 Transfer fee $31.01 Shipping $7.99 Total $66 I received a W-9 from the transfer agent and returned it. I never received anything from a stock broker. I assume that OneShare.com buys large lots of stock and then just has single shares transferred as needed. My question is what is my cost basis? If I ever did sell it how much would the gain have to be before it has to be reported? If I receive dividends, at what point does it have to be reported? Be sure to see Shrek 3 when it comes out so I can make some money. -- Dennis Disclaimer: The above is my opinion. I do not guarantee it. Be sure to back up any files involved and use at your own risk. Batteries not included. Not for internal use. Don't run with knives. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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