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Old 04-03-2006, 04:14 AM
Ernie Klein
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Default Re: Does letting the IRS have my refund count as paying estimated taxes?

"Ted" <Ted[at]ixmil.com> wrote:

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> I am getting a significant refund; had a worse year than I
> expected... I will have to pay out a lot in estimated taxes.
> The refund will be about half of the estimated taxes owe.
> I am planning on telling the IRS to use it for next year.
> Can I skip the first two estimated tax payments, since they
> are covered by the refund; or do I still have to make all
> four, just smaller because of the refund?


You sure can. I used to do just that but stopped after
having a problem with the IRS that was resolved in my favor,
but only after a lot of letter writing. I won't go into the
details but I will say that if I am due a refund I now
request a payment of that refund rather than applying it to
my next years estimated taxes.

By doing so I *know* the IRS has received my return and
honored the refund. Without actually receiving the refund
check from the IRS, I have no proof that they even
_received_ my return.

By paying my estimated tax myself with a check, the
cancelled check is my proof that the IRS actually received
my payment.

Not having either or both of those proofs can lead to a lot
of frustration.

--
-Ernie-

"There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."

Have you done your backup today?

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Old 04-03-2006, 03:54 AM
ed
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Default Re: Does letting the IRS have my refund count as paying estimated taxes?

You can skip whatever payments are covered by the refund no
matter which Method (Regular or AI) you end up using. You
are effectively just "prepaying" your installments,

ed

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Old 04-02-2006, 02:47 PM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Does letting the IRS have my refund count as paying estimated taxes?

"Ted" <Ted[at]ixmil.com> wrote:

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> I am getting a significant refund; had a worse year than I
> expected... I will have to pay out a lot in estimated taxes.
> The refund will be about half of the estimated taxes owe.
> I am planning on telling the IRS to use it for next year.
> Can I skip the first two estimated tax payments, since they
> are covered by the refund; or do I still have to make all
> four, just smaller because of the refund?


Your choice.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 04-02-2006, 02:47 PM
Paul Thomas
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Default Re: Does letting the IRS have my refund count as paying estimated taxes?

"Ted" <Ted[at]ixmil.com> wrote

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> I am getting a significant refund; had a worse year than I
> expected... I will have to pay out a lot in estimated taxes.
> The refund will be about half of the estimated taxes owe.
> I am planning on telling the IRS to use it for next year.
> Can I skip the first two estimated tax payments, since they
> are covered by the refund; or do I still have to make all
> four, just smaller because of the refund?


You can apply as much of the estimated tax as necessary for
part or all of your estimated tax.

Look at the overpayment being applied forward as a pot of
tax money that they dip into to draw your estimated tax
from. The only thing is, they don't know how big or small
of a ladle to use until you file your 2006 return.

As long as you have met one or more of the "safe harbor"
rules for estimates, you'll be fine.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 04-02-2006, 02:25 AM
Ted
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Default Does letting the IRS have my refund count as paying estimated taxes?

I am getting a significant refund; had a worse year than I
expected... I will have to pay out a lot in estimated taxes.
The refund will be about half of the estimated taxes owe.
I am planning on telling the IRS to use it for next year.

Can I skip the first two estimated tax payments, since they
are covered by the refund; or do I still have to make all
four, just smaller because of the refund?

Thanks

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