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Old 03-27-2006, 07:20 PM
Missy
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baumgrenze wrote:

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> I was amazed to find this statement in the instructions for
> "Column B Illinois Portion" of the 2005 Schedule NR for the
> State of Illinois.
> Line 16: Taxable pensions and annuities Do not write an
> amount on this line. As a nonresident, your pensions and
> annuities are not taxed by Illinois.
> I was named a 1/3 beneficiary of a $10,000 (cost) fixed
> retirement annuity issued by IDS Life and purchased by a now
> deceased lifelong Illinois resident. My share was $7,542.47,
> of which, clearly, $3,333.33 was invested capital and
> $4,209.14 was tax sheltered income, accumulated during the
> life of the purchaser (not me.) The income was reported to
> me on a 1099-R.
> For federal purposes I reported the income portion on line
> 16b of my Form 1040, along with a small pension paid to me
> by a former employer.
> Given past experience with IDOR I am amazed that they would
> not wish to collect their 3% of this income
> Has anyone had experience with this instruction? Is it as
> simple as it seems? Do I really not owe a tax?


Pensions are not taxable in Illinois.

Missy Doyle

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Old 03-27-2006, 07:01 PM
baumgrenze
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Default Re: Annuity Income - Illinois Non-Resident

I now consider this a closed question!

IDOR responded with a simple statement, "Illinois does not
tax annuities."

I received a similar, more detailed answer in "Tax
Strategies" forum at www.fool.com.

I thought I'd document my findings against a future question
by someone else.

Thanks for looking.

baumgrenze

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Old 03-27-2006, 07:00 PM
L K Williams
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"baumgrenze" <baumgrenze[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> I was amazed to find this statement in the instructions for
> "Column B Illinois Portion" of the 2005 Schedule NR for the
> State of Illinois.
> Line 16: Taxable pensions and annuities Do not write an
> amount on this line. As a nonresident, your pensions and
> annuities are not taxed by Illinois.
> I was named a 1/3 beneficiary of a $10,000 (cost) fixed
> retirement annuity issued by IDS Life and purchased by a now
> deceased lifelong Illinois resident. My share was $7,542.47,
> of which, clearly, $3,333.33 was invested capital and
> $4,209.14 was tax sheltered income, accumulated during the
> life of the purchaser (not me.) The income was reported to
> me on a 1099-R.
> For federal purposes I reported the income portion on line
> 16b of my Form 1040, along with a small pension paid to me
> by a former employer.
> Given past experience with IDOR I am amazed that they would
> not wish to collect their 3% of this income
> Has anyone had experience with this instruction? Is it as
> simple as it seems? Do I really not owe a tax?


About 10 years ago (my memory is not exact and I can't take
the time to look it up now) Congress wrote a provision into
the law that states could not tax pensions based on source.
They could tax the pensions of their residents but not of
residents of other states. Even it the pensioner earned
some or all of the pension while working in a state, that
state can not tax the pension if the person no longer lives
there. So, Illinois has no power to tax you on the payments
you receive if you are not an Illinois resident.

Lanny K. Williams, CPA
Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd.
Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans

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Old 03-26-2006, 02:15 PM
baumgrenze
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Default Annuity Income - Illinois Non-Resident

I was amazed to find this statement in the instructions for
"Column B Illinois Portion" of the 2005 Schedule NR for the
State of Illinois.

Line 16: Taxable pensions and annuities Do not write an
amount on this line. As a nonresident, your pensions and
annuities are not taxed by Illinois.

I was named a 1/3 beneficiary of a $10,000 (cost) fixed
retirement annuity issued by IDS Life and purchased by a now
deceased lifelong Illinois resident. My share was $7,542.47,
of which, clearly, $3,333.33 was invested capital and
$4,209.14 was tax sheltered income, accumulated during the
life of the purchaser (not me.) The income was reported to
me on a 1099-R.

For federal purposes I reported the income portion on line
16b of my Form 1040, along with a small pension paid to me
by a former employer.

Given past experience with IDOR I am amazed that they would
not wish to collect their 3% of this income

Has anyone had experience with this instruction? Is it as
simple as it seems? Do I really not owe a tax?

Thanks,

baumgrenze

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