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| I know of no requirement that a corrected 1099-R must be submitted. The documentation you submitted should be sufficient. The IRS person that is requiring this info is either poorly trained, doesn't know any better, is one of many petty IRS employees that get on a power trip just because they can, or more likely all of the above. Your best recourse is to contact the Taxpayer Advocate's (TA) office either by phone (1-877-777-4778) or by submitting a Form 911 via mail or by fax to the local TA office for your state (http://www.irs.gov/advocate/content/...150972,00.html). They should be able to have the case reassigned to them and process the amended return. When they contact you or your client, be sure to have the name(s) of your congressional representatives in case you neet to hint to the TA that you plan on contacting them for help as you can't believe that the IRS won't help a dying woman even though she has provided documentation proving her illness and justifying the amended tax return. As for the other suggestions: 1. A TAM must be requested using the formal procedures contained in Rev. Proc. 2006-2 but they are intended to establish the proper interpretation and application of the Internal Revenue laws to the facts of a specific case on the grounds that a lack of uniformity exists regarding an issue, or that the issue is so unusual or complex that is warrants consideration by IRS Headquarters so a TAM would not be appropriate for your client's situation. 2. You would not be able to file a petition in Tax Court since that is only applicable when the IRS has issued a Notice of Deficiency, also called a 90 Day Letter. 3. You could have the IRS issUe a disallowance letter to deny your claim (typically Letter 916) and then would have I believe 2 years from the date of the letter to file suit in federal district court. However, the expense would be much greater than the tax decrease involved so I wouldn't recommend it. Rudy www.LizcanoTaxServicesLLC.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont) wrote: - quote - > My client has fourth stage multi-organ cancer and is totally
The IRS is WAY out of line on this one!> disabled. Her gentleman friend brought me her paperwork > since she is bedridden and undergoing chemotherapy and > repeated surgeries. In 2004 she took out all the money from > her IRA and an annuity to pay medical bills. She hasn't > worked in several years. The issuers coded the withdrawals > with a 1 since she is only 47 years old. She filed a > physician's statement that she is totally and permanently > disabled. Her original preparer taxed her on the > distributions and also assessed the 10% penalty. She meets > the requirements for code 3 (disability). I amended the > return with the physician's statement. The IRS is now > requiring that the 1099R form be changed by the issuers. > America Express has refused to correct the form. The life > insurance company I haven't heard yet. > Does the form have to have this code? She obviously meets > the requirements of exception 3 although she didn't tell the > issuers about her disability. Both she and her gentleman > friend are in denial about the seriousness of her disease. > Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA Request an appeal of their decision immediately. If that doesn't work, write the national office ask for a TAM (Taxpayer Advice Memorandum). This is binding on the service but NOT on the client. While I have never used it, I believe there is a procedure where you can ask for the IRS to immediately reject your request then you can bring suit in court. I'm not sure if you can get into tax court, but you should be able to get into District court since they have the money. Good luck and please keep us posted. Gene E. Utterback, EA, RFC << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont) wrote: - quote - > My client has fourth stage multi-organ cancer and is totally
There is no requirement to obtain a "corrected" 1099-R. The> disabled. Her gentleman friend brought me her paperwork > since she is bedridden and undergoing chemotherapy and > repeated surgeries. In 2004 she took out all the money from > her IRA and an annuity to pay medical bills. She hasn't > worked in several years. The issuers coded the withdrawals > with a 1 since she is only 47 years old. She filed a > physician's statement that she is totally and permanently > disabled. Her original preparer taxed her on the > distributions and also assessed the 10% penalty. She meets > the requirements for code 3 (disability). I amended the > return with the physician's statement. The IRS is now > requiring that the 1099R form be changed by the issuers. > America Express has refused to correct the form. The life > insurance company I haven't heard yet. > Does the form have to have this code? She obviously meets > the requirements of exception 3 although she didn't tell the > issuers about her disability. Both she and her gentleman > friend are in denial about the seriousness of her disease. issuer is obligated to use the code based on all information available at the time of distribution. If no known exception exists to the early withdrawal penalty, then Code 1 is applicable. The taxpayer merely needs to complete the 5329, select the applicable exception code and attach the necessary documentation. Per IRS Pub 590, here is the definition of disabled: You are considered disabled if you can furnish proof that you cannot do any substantial gainful activity because of your physical or mental condition. A physician must determine that your condition can be expected to result in death or to be of long, continued, and indefinite duration. If the IRS is going to require a revised 1099-R every time a taxpayer disagreed with the code in Box 7 of the 1099-R, why do they have the 5329 and its exception codes? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| (Linda Dorfmont)" <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > My client has fourth stage multi-organ cancer and is totally
I have always understood the rule to be that 1099s were> disabled. Her gentleman friend brought me her paperwork > since she is bedridden and undergoing chemotherapy and > repeated surgeries. In 2004 she took out all the money from > her IRA and an annuity to pay medical bills. She hasn't > worked in several years. The issuers coded the withdrawals > with a 1 since she is only 47 years old. She filed a > physician's statement that she is totally and permanently > disabled. Her original preparer taxed her on the > distributions and also assessed the 10% penalty. She meets > the requirements for code 3 (disability). I amended the > return with the physician's statement. The IRS is now > requiring that the 1099R form be changed by the issuers. > America Express has refused to correct the form. The life > insurance company I haven't heard yet. > Does the form have to have this code? She obviously meets > the requirements of exception 3 although she didn't tell the > issuers about her disability. Both she and her gentleman > friend are in denial about the seriousness of her disease. presumptive evidence, not dispositive. For years, IRS would accept evidence that was counter to a 1099, if such evidence was credible. However, I am currently working a case where IRS refuses to follow this rule. Depite an employment letter that clearly defines an employer/employee relationship, the IRS is refusing to admit the taxpayer is not an independent contractor because the company incorrectly issued him a 1099, not a W-2. I believe that I would insist the IRS accept the doctor's statement and, if they refuse, go to appeals. If the amount is sufficient, I would also consider engaging a tax attorney to prepare to go to court, if necessary. In my case, I am considering asking the attorney to ask for court costs on the grounds the IRS position is not sustained. You might consider this, as well. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > My client has fourth stage multi-organ cancer and is totally
No. Ask the IRS minion who's telling you this to confirm> disabled. Her gentleman friend brought me her paperwork > since she is bedridden and undergoing chemotherapy and > repeated surgeries. In 2004 she took out all the money from > her IRA and an annuity to pay medical bills. She hasn't > worked in several years. The issuers coded the withdrawals > with a 1 since she is only 47 years old. She filed a > physician's statement that she is totally and permanently > disabled. Her original preparer taxed her on the > distributions and also assessed the 10% penalty. She meets > the requirements for code 3 (disability). I amended the > return with the physician's statement. The IRS is now > requiring that the 1099R form be changed by the issuers. > America Express has refused to correct the form. The life > insurance company I haven't heard yet. > Does the form have to have this code? that (s)he's never seen an incorrectly coded 1099. If that doesn't work, move up the IRS food chain. If you don't get prompt resolution, hit 'em with the Congressional assistance request. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My client has fourth stage multi-organ cancer and is totally disabled. Her gentleman friend brought me her paperwork since she is bedridden and undergoing chemotherapy and repeated surgeries. In 2004 she took out all the money from her IRA and an annuity to pay medical bills. She hasn't worked in several years. The issuers coded the withdrawals with a 1 since she is only 47 years old. She filed a physician's statement that she is totally and permanently disabled. Her original preparer taxed her on the distributions and also assessed the 10% penalty. She meets the requirements for code 3 (disability). I amended the return with the physician's statement. The IRS is now requiring that the 1099R form be changed by the issuers. America Express has refused to correct the form. The life insurance company I haven't heard yet. Does the form have to have this code? She obviously meets the requirements of exception 3 although she didn't tell the issuers about her disability. Both she and her gentleman friend are in denial about the seriousness of her disease. Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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