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Old 03-09-2006, 02:21 AM
Dave Rudisill
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Default Re: Underpayment penalty vs. early withdrawal penalty

"Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> "Dave Rudisill" <denali[at]alaska.net> wrote:

> > We retired early and are living off our IRAs. Since we are
> > not yet 59.5 years old, every nickel we withdraw is subject
> > to ordinary income tax plus a 10% penalty. (A 72(t) plan did
> > not work for us.)
> > > As of August 25 this year, I will be 59.5 years old.
> > > As of the fourth quarter of 2005, the underpayment penalty

> > rate was 7%. Wouldn't it make sense for me to simply NOT
> > make estimated tax payments until after I turn 59.5?
> > Wouldn't the underpayment penalty be substantially less than
> > the 10% early withdrawal penalty?


> You must have asked this differently, or I hadn't had enough
> to drink. Your plan makes good sense. Assuming you bring
> things up-to-date with the September installment, the ES
> penalty will be substantially less than the early withdrawal
> penalty. You can see how it's calculated on Form 2210 (the
> rates may be different in 2006, but the method will be the
> same).



Thanks!

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Dave, soon to be old

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Old 03-09-2006, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Underpayment penalty vs. early withdrawal penalty

Phil Marti wrote:

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> You must have asked this differently, or I hadn't had enough
> to drink. Your plan makes good sense. Assuming you bring

(...snipked.......)

Careful Phil, or you'll give readers the impression that we
only answer questions when we get home after a hard day's
work at the tax factory and are at happy hour.

Come to think of it.........!

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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Old 03-08-2006, 05:32 PM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Underpayment penalty vs. early withdrawal penalty

"Dave Rudisill" <denali[at]alaska.net> wrote:

- quote -

> We retired early and are living off our IRAs. Since we are
> not yet 59.5 years old, every nickel we withdraw is subject
> to ordinary income tax plus a 10% penalty. (A 72(t) plan did
> not work for us.)
> As of August 25 this year, I will be 59.5 years old.
> As of the fourth quarter of 2005, the underpayment penalty
> rate was 7%. Wouldn't it make sense for me to simply NOT
> make estimated tax payments until after I turn 59.5?
> Wouldn't the underpayment penalty be substantially less than
> the 10% early withdrawal penalty?


You must have asked this differently, or I hadn't had enough
to drink. Your plan makes good sense. Assuming you bring
things up-to-date with the September installment, the ES
penalty will be substantially less than the early withdrawal
penalty. You can see how it's calculated on Form 2210 (the
rates may be different in 2006, but the method will be the
same).

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 03-08-2006, 03:03 AM
Dave Rudisill
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Default Underpayment penalty vs. early withdrawal penalty

Since nobody responded when I asked this question three
weeks ago, I'll try again:

We retired early and are living off our IRAs. Since we are
not yet 59.5 years old, every nickel we withdraw is subject
to ordinary income tax plus a 10% penalty. (A 72(t) plan did
not work for us.)

As of August 25 this year, I will be 59.5 years old.

As of the fourth quarter of 2005, the underpayment penalty
rate was 7%. Wouldn't it make sense for me to simply NOT
make estimated tax payments until after I turn 59.5?
Wouldn't the underpayment penalty be substantially less than
the 10% early withdrawal penalty?

Thanks.

--
Dave

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
 

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