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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtmtax[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
But congress keeps telling us that they didn't raise taxes :-(> > You are obviously not her dependent. A child does not have > > to be a dependent to qualify the parent to file as HOH. > This is no longer true, as of 2005. The only exception is > when the custodial parent is allowing the noncustodial > parent the dependency exemption of a qualifying child. The > old "unmarried child regardless of income" qualifying person > for HofH is no more. -- -Ernie- "There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will." Have you done your backup today? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > cloudeleven wrote:
Whoops, I missed the age in this one. The child is not a> > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I > > made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > > other's company. > > > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. > > > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year > > and must claim herself as single instead because of these > > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > > household and claim me as a dependent. > > > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 > > taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? > > > I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, > > but I want to see if you agree with me. > You are obviously not her dependent. A child does not have > to be a dependent to qualify the parent to file as HOH. As > you lived with her for more than half the year, she could > file as HOH as long as she paid more than half the cost of > keeping the home in which you both lived. You only told us > she paid for over half of your living expenses. I don't > know what that means. Keeping up a home includes the cost of > lodging (either rent or mortgage interest & property taxes), > utilities, repairs, property insurance, food consumed on the > premises and any other expense of the household. This is a > different definition than the one used to determine total > support of a dependent. qualifying child and therefore would have to be a qualifying relative which he his not. Therefore, HOH is not available. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtmtax[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > You are obviously not her dependent. A child does not have
This is no longer true, as of 2005. The only exception is> to be a dependent to qualify the parent to file as HOH. when the custodial parent is allowing the noncustodial parent the dependency exemption of a qualifying child. The old "unmarried child regardless of income" qualifying person for HofH is no more. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| cloudeleven wrote: - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
Subject/question has already been discussed to death on> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > other's company. > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year > and must claim herself as single instead because of these > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > household and claim me as a dependent. > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 > taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? > I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, > but I want to see if you agree with me. Fairmark.com, but basically she does not qualify for HOH status. You are neither a "qualifying child" (too old) nor a "qualifying relative" (make over $3,200 last year), so can not be her dependent. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| cloudeleven wrote: - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
Subject/question has already been discussed to death on> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > other's company. > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year > and must claim herself as single instead because of these > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > household and claim me as a dependent. > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 > taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? > I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, > but I want to see if you agree with me. Fairmark.com, but basically she does not qualify for HOH status. You are neither a "qualifying child" (too old) nor a "qualifying relative" (make over $3,200 last year), so can not be her dependent. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| cloudeleven wrote: - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
Because you are over the age of 23 and not disabled, you are> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > other's company. > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year > and must claim herself as single instead because of these > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > household and claim me as a dependent. > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 > taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? > I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, > but I want to see if you agree with me. not a qualifying child for your mother. Therefore, in order for her to be able to claim you as a dependent, you must meet the rules of a qualifying relative. The two tests you will have trouble with are support and gross income. Whether your mother provided more than 50% of your support is questionable, but it doesn't really matter because you fail the gross income test. In order for your mother to claim you in 2005, you must have earned less than $3,200. Since you earned more than this, she cannot claim your dependency. Since you are not her dependent, she also cannot use you for Head of Household filing status. (This is different from 2004, in which you did not have to be her dependent for purposes of HOH.) She must file single with no dependents, and you also will file single. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| cloudeleven wrote: - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
You are obviously not her dependent. A child does not have> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > other's company. > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year > and must claim herself as single instead because of these > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > household and claim me as a dependent. > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 > taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? > I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, > but I want to see if you agree with me. to be a dependent to qualify the parent to file as HOH. As you lived with her for more than half the year, she could file as HOH as long as she paid more than half the cost of keeping the home in which you both lived. You only told us she paid for over half of your living expenses. I don't know what that means. Keeping up a home includes the cost of lodging (either rent or mortgage interest & property taxes), utilities, repairs, property insurance, food consumed on the premises and any other expense of the household. This is a different definition than the one used to determine total support of a dependent. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "cloudeleven" <cloudeleven[at]email.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
To be a head of household one must maintain a household for> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > other's company. > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year > and must claim herself as single instead because of these > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > household and claim me as a dependent. > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 > taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? > I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, > but I want to see if you agree with me. a "qualifying child" or other "deductible dependent". Tax Code Sec. 2(b). You are too old to be a "qualifying child" (over 24, not student), and your income is too high (over $3,200) for you to be a deductible dependent. As a partial offset to the increase in your mother's taxes, you can claim a $3,200 exemption for yourself on your own return, which you could not do if she claimed you as a dependent. Bob Daniels (Usual disclaimers... free advice is worth the price, can't rely for penalty protection, etc.) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
<snip> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. <snip> I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing > status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. - quote - > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005
She cannot claim you as a dependent because of the gross> taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? income test (you made over $3,200). She cannot claim Head of Household because you are not a dependent. (Yes, that was one of the rules that changed this year.) -- Don EA in Upstate NY << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "cloudeleven" <cloudeleven[at]email.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I
No comment.> made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time > last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she > supported last year, and I am the only other person in her > household. She paid over half of my living expenses last > year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting > me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead > of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now > since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each > other's company. - quote - > I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing
Actually, for 2004 she could have filed as HofH if your> status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could > still claim herself as head of household this year. Last > year she was able to claim head of household for herself and > claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. income had been $25,000 (and all other facts the same). All it took was for your child to be unmarried--didn't have to qualify as a dependent. For 2005, since you don't qualify as her dependent, she cannot file as HofH. She has to file Single with (presumably) only her own personal exemption. - quote - > If she can't claim herself as head of household this year
She needs to amend her W-4 immediately to reflect her> and must claim herself as single instead because of these > rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last > year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of > household and claim me as a dependent. current status or she'll have another big bill a year from now. - quote - > Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005
No and no. She does have a source of the cash to pay the> taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? unexpected tax bill, though, so her child continues to be a blessing to her. Since you're so close, I hope you'll be able to sit her down and make her reevaluate her budget without the tax break she thought she was getting. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I'm 25 years old, and I lived with my mom for all of 2005. I made around $24,000 in 2005. I was not a student at any time last year. I'm not disabled. I am the only person she supported last year, and I am the only other person in her household. She paid over half of my living expenses last year. My mom is basically doing me a huge favor by letting me live with her. I can save for a car, house, etc. instead of having to spend everything on supporting myself right now since I don't make much. Plus, we are close and enjoy each other's company. I am aware that there have been some changes in the filing status rules since last year, but I wasn't sure if she could still claim herself as head of household this year. Last year she was able to claim head of household for herself and claim me as a dependent because I only made $2500 in 2004. If she can't claim herself as head of household this year and must claim herself as single instead because of these rule changes, she will owe a huge tax bill this year. Last year she got a huge refund because she could claim head of household and claim me as a dependent. Can she claim head of household for herself on her 2005 taxes? Also, can she claim me as a dependent? I have read the rules and have come up with my own answer, but I want to see if you agree with me. Thanks for your help! << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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