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| Seth Breidbart wrote: - quote - > Why does the fund need paperwork from the companies
One common case is for a REIT. The distributions are not> (assuming it invests in stock and bonds, not limited > partnerships)? It should know what dividends it received, > capital gains it made, etc. from its own accounting. qualified dividends. So the broker will probably report them as non-qualified dividends on the January 30 1099. But on Jan 30, the REIT says that some of that money was capital gain, some return of capital, and some was Unrecaptured Section 1250 Gain. So there is an amended 1099. Using the new numbers will mean less tax, altho the effort to file an amended return may be more than the tax savings are worth. Ideally the REIT will get that info to the broker earlier than statute requires, but that does not always happen. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| sethb[at]panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes: - quote - > Why does the fund need paperwork from the companies
Its own accounting says not a word about the *character* of the> (assuming it invests in stock and bonds, not limited > partnerships)? It should know what dividends it received, > capital gains it made, etc. from its own accounting. distributions it received from the corps it invests in. - quote - > When a company says "Oops, we goofed, we didn't actually make a profit
But it does issue a corrected 1099-DIV to the fund saying> last year" it doesn't get to claw back its dividend payments. "oops, some of that was actually a return-of-capital distribution, not a dividend" or "oops, some of that was a non-qualified dividend, not a qualified dividend" or "oops, turns out we paid over more foreign income tax than we thought", etc. And then the fund has to issue corrected 1099-DIVs to its shareholders reflecting the new info it got from the corps it invests in. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote: - quote - > "spinoza" <spinoza_43221[at]yahoo.com> writes:
Why does the fund need paperwork from the companies> > Mutual Funds in general seem to have to issue information by > > January 31st, but I have some that have issued corrections. > > One in particular stated that 9 percent of the interest > > earned was exempt in the state I live in. > > > Is there any deadline for when these mutual funds have to > > put out corrections. > You're asking the wrong question. You need to ask what, if > any, deadline there is for the corporations the fund invests > in to put out corrections. *That's* almost always the > source of the *fund's* corrections. All the fund has to go > on is what it gets from the companies it invests in. (assuming it invests in stock and bonds, not limited partnerships)? It should know what dividends it received, capital gains it made, etc. from its own accounting. When a company says "Oops, we goofed, we didn't actually make a profit last year" it doesn't get to claw back its dividend payments. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "spinoza" <spinoza_43221[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Mutual Funds in general seem to have to issue information by
Actually, there is no deadline for corrected 1099s, etc.> January 31st, but I have some that have issued corrections. > One in particular stated that 9 percent of the interest > earned was exempt in the state I live in. > Is there any deadline for when these mutual funds have to > put out corrections. The state I live in offers a discount > if you file quickly and this correction was sent to me after > the deadline for the discount. The problem you describe arises because both the mutual fund and the corporations it invests in have the same deadling. The mutual fund must send you its 1099 by January 31. The problem arises because the companies whose stocks are in the funds portfolio must also send out their 1099s by January 31. Thus, the fund will not have information, such as you describe, before it must issue your 1099. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Ira Smilovitz" <iras1[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > "spinoza" <spinoza_43221[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Does the state take back the discount if you later file an> > Mutual Funds in general seem to have to issue information by > > January 31st, but I have some that have issued corrections. > > One in particular stated that 9 percent of the interest > > earned was exempt in the state I live in. > > > Is there any deadline for when these mutual funds have to > > put out corrections. The state I live in offers a discount > > if you file quickly and this correction was sent to me after > > the deadline for the discount. > > > Thanks in advance, > There is no deadline. No entity that provides you with > information relevant to your tax return is under any > obligation to help you obtain an early filing discount. amended return? If not, you should still get the discount if you initially filed early and then correct it when you receive the corrected 1099. I noticed that several of my funds sent out corrected 1099's this year. Was there a late-breaking tax change that caused this? -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "spinoza" <spinoza_43221[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Mutual Funds in general seem to have to issue information by
There is no deadline. No entity that provides you with> January 31st, but I have some that have issued corrections. > One in particular stated that 9 percent of the interest > earned was exempt in the state I live in. > Is there any deadline for when these mutual funds have to > put out corrections. The state I live in offers a discount > if you file quickly and this correction was sent to me after > the deadline for the discount. > Thanks in advance, information relevant to your tax return is under any obligation to help you obtain an early filing discount. Ira Smilovitz << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "spinoza" <spinoza_43221[at]yahoo.com> writes: - quote - > Mutual Funds in general seem to have to issue information by
You're asking the wrong question. You need to ask what, if> January 31st, but I have some that have issued corrections. > One in particular stated that 9 percent of the interest > earned was exempt in the state I live in. > Is there any deadline for when these mutual funds have to > put out corrections. any, deadline there is for the corporations the fund invests in to put out corrections. *That's* almost always the source of the *fund's* corrections. All the fund has to go on is what it gets from the companies it invests in. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Mutual Funds in general seem to have to issue information by January 31st, but I have some that have issued corrections. One in particular stated that 9 percent of the interest earned was exempt in the state I live in. Is there any deadline for when these mutual funds have to put out corrections. The state I live in offers a discount if you file quickly and this correction was sent to me after the deadline for the discount. Thanks in advance, << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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