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| Thanks a lot, Katie. Really great info. I had continued doing research after posting my initial question and was beginning to think that 1) I would have to pay VA taxes while in training and 2) Filing as a PY resident for 2006 (after we've left the country) probably makes sense. Your post definitely supports both of those points. You mention a statute of limitations on the 2006 tax return. Do you know how long that is or where I could find it? It is very unlikely that I will return to VA in the next 5-6 years, but is unknown when I will return after that period of time. I will eventually return to VA for more training; I just don't know when (other than it not being for at least 5 years). My wife working in FL was really intended to help us establish FL residency. Sounds like it doesn't help and may even complicate things. We can always change those plans. However, I'm still wondering if her becoming a FL resident in May/June (less than 183 days in VA) would help my case for changing too. We'd probably have to file our 2006 VA tax returns separately, me as a PY resident and her as a non-resident, but since she's my wife and I would subsequently claim domicile in FL, where she had been a resident as of 2006, does that not help my case if VA ever questions what I'm doing? We really don't want to buy a house in FL until we return (many years from now). Rental rates don't seem to have kept pace with home price increases, so it isn't looking like a very good investment. I also don't like the idea of being landlords from half way around the world. I had hoped that our family ties, long-time FL residency before moving to VA, and maintaining things such as active driver licenses and bank accounts would be sufficient to prove our intent to return there (I think that is the key test of domicile). In addition, our move to VA was only for a job transfer; we have no other ties here. Do you think that will be sufficient? If it not, I suppose we could buy the most inexpensive house possible, with no intention of every living there, just to say we own a residence in FL. Not my first choice, but preferable to paying state taxes to a place we don't live and never intend to return. Again, thanks very much for your help. Charles << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Charles Goodman wrote: - quote - > I have a VA state tax question that I'm hoping someone can
You have no choice with respect to the Virginia withholding.> help me with. > My wife and I lived in Florida for over 15 years until my > soon to be former company transferred us to Virginia in the > summer of 2002. All of my wife's family is still in Florida > and we maintained ties there in other ways, such as keeping > our Tampa credit union account open. > I have accepted a new job with the US Department of State > and will be going overseas after several months of training. > Our only tie to VA was through my former company and our > intention is to return to Florida when we come back from my > overseas work (at least several years...perhaps as many as > 20 years). We also want to take our vacation and "home > leave" time in Florida to be close to family. > We have put our VA house up for sale and my wife is in the > process of transferring her nursing license back to Florida. > We have also changed the address on our Florida driver > licenses to my wife's parents house. Even though we turned > in our FL driver licenses when we got our VA licenses, we > haven't been here long enough for the FL licenses to expire > so they were still active; I just had to go online and give > the new address. We have also registered to vote in > Pinellas county (FL), which is where my wife's parents live. > My wife will be going down to FL in the near future to work > as a nurse and she will also register our cars down there. > My questions are about my obligations for paying, and having > withheld from my paycheck, VA state income tax. Because we > are changing our state of domicile to Florida, I do not > think I will be responsible for VA state income tax once we > are overseas. Is this correct? As I have indicated, we > have shifted everything (driver licenses, voter > registration, etc.) back to Florida. However, the training > for my new State Department job is going to be in northern > VA. Since we have shifted domicilliary residency back to > Florida, am I obligated to have VA state tax withheld from > my State Department paycheck while I'm in training in VA? > As a VA resident this year, I will have worked for my former > company through 3/16/06 (my last day). I expect that my > State Department training in northern VA will last until > August or September. If I do have to have VA tax withheld > from my State Department paycheck, I'm worried that it will > suggest I'm still a VA resident, which I do not want to be, > particularly once I'm overseas. I will have presence here > after 3/16, but I have no intention of returning here after > training. > I realize this may be a tricky question, but any info > someone can give me, even general guidance, would be very > helpful. Your earnings will be Virginia source income and would be taxable in Virginia whether you are a resident or not. The State Department has no choice but to withhold Virginia tax. Whether you can make an effective change of domicile to Florida without actually moving there yourself with the intent of remaining there indefinitely (rather than going overseas or elsewhere shortly thereafter) is another question. The Virginia regulation is pretty detailed on change of domicile. You should look at Va. Adm. Code 23 Sec. 10-110-30(B)(3), which you can probably access through the Virginia Department of Revenue's web site. If you can't find the DOR site right off, you can go straight to it from www.taxadmin.org. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Charles Goodman wrote: - quote - > I have a VA state tax question that I'm hoping someone can
You definitely will have to have VA taxes withheld from your> help me with. > My wife and I lived in Florida for over 15 years until my > soon to be former company transferred us to Virginia in the > summer of 2002. All of my wife's family is still in Florida > and we maintained ties there in other ways, such as keeping > our Tampa credit union account open. > I have accepted a new job with the US Department of State > and will be going overseas after several months of training. > Our only tie to VA was through my former company and our > intention is to return to Florida when we come back from my > overseas work (at least several years...perhaps as many as > 20 years). We also want to take our vacation and "home > leave" time in Florida to be close to family. > We have put our VA house up for sale and my wife is in the > process of transferring her nursing license back to Florida. > We have also changed the address on our Florida driver > licenses to my wife's parents house. Even though we turned > in our FL driver licenses when we got our VA licenses, we > haven't been here long enough for the FL licenses to expire > so they were still active; I just had to go online and give > the new address. We have also registered to vote in > Pinellas county (FL), which is where my wife's parents live. > My wife will be going down to FL in the near future to work > as a nurse and she will also register our cars down there. > My questions are about my obligations for paying, and having > withheld from my paycheck, VA state income tax. Because we > are changing our state of domicile to Florida, I do not > think I will be responsible for VA state income tax once we > are overseas. Is this correct? As I have indicated, we > have shifted everything (driver licenses, voter > registration, etc.) back to Florida. However, the training > for my new State Department job is going to be in northern > VA. Since we have shifted domicilliary residency back to > Florida, am I obligated to have VA state tax withheld from > my State Department paycheck while I'm in training in VA? > As a VA resident this year, I will have worked for my former > company through 3/16/06 (my last day). I expect that my > State Department training in northern VA will last until > August or September. If I do have to have VA tax withheld > from my State Department paycheck, I'm worried that it will > suggest I'm still a VA resident, which I do not want to be, > particularly once I'm overseas. I will have presence here > after 3/16, but I have no intention of returning here after > training. > I realize this may be a tricky question, but any info > someone can give me, even general guidance, would be very > helpful. State Department paycheck while you are training in VA, because your salary is VA source income (for services performed in VA). That has nothing to do with your tax residence, necessarily. However, I think you will remain a VA resident until you finish your training and leave the state. Even if your domicile has changed back to Florida, your presence in VA and maintenance of a place of abode there for more than 183 days of 2006 would make you a resident for tax purposes. If your wife goes to Florida and works there for the rest of the year, SHE may become a nonresident of Virginia, but you will not. From the date she becomes a nonresident, her Florida earnings will not be subject to Virginia tax in 2006. Whether you can make an effective change of domicile from VA to FL without, yourself, actually moving to and residing in FL with no intention of leaving there for an indefinite time, is another question. The Virginia regulations are pretty strict on this point. I'd suggest you look at Va. Adm. Code 23 Sec. 10-110-30(B)(3), which you can probably access through the Virginia Department of Revenue's web site. I would suggest you and your wife establish a place of abode for yourselves (not staying with family) in Florida as soon as possible, and that you spend as much time there as you can before you go overseas. Keep a detailed, contemporaneous calendar and document your travels, e.g. air itineraries or gas receipts. The simplest and cleanest way to handle this probably would be to treat yourself and your wife as Virginia residents up to the time you leave the state after finishing your State Department training, and file 2006 as part-year residents of Virginia. As long as you don't return to Virginia within the statute of limitations on the 2006 return, it is likely that no questions will be raised about your change of residence. However, you should be aware that any time you return to work in Virginia (e.g., for meetings or additional training) you will have Virginia source income and a filing requirement unless it is de minimis. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I have a VA state tax question that I'm hoping someone can help me with. My wife and I lived in Florida for over 15 years until my soon to be former company transferred us to Virginia in the summer of 2002. All of my wife's family is still in Florida and we maintained ties there in other ways, such as keeping our Tampa credit union account open. I have accepted a new job with the US Department of State and will be going overseas after several months of training. Our only tie to VA was through my former company and our intention is to return to Florida when we come back from my overseas work (at least several years...perhaps as many as 20 years). We also want to take our vacation and "home leave" time in Florida to be close to family. We have put our VA house up for sale and my wife is in the process of transferring her nursing license back to Florida. We have also changed the address on our Florida driver licenses to my wife's parents house. Even though we turned in our FL driver licenses when we got our VA licenses, we haven't been here long enough for the FL licenses to expire so they were still active; I just had to go online and give the new address. We have also registered to vote in Pinellas county (FL), which is where my wife's parents live. My wife will be going down to FL in the near future to work as a nurse and she will also register our cars down there. My questions are about my obligations for paying, and having withheld from my paycheck, VA state income tax. Because we are changing our state of domicile to Florida, I do not think I will be responsible for VA state income tax once we are overseas. Is this correct? As I have indicated, we have shifted everything (driver licenses, voter registration, etc.) back to Florida. However, the training for my new State Department job is going to be in northern VA. Since we have shifted domicilliary residency back to Florida, am I obligated to have VA state tax withheld from my State Department paycheck while I'm in training in VA? As a VA resident this year, I will have worked for my former company through 3/16/06 (my last day). I expect that my State Department training in northern VA will last until August or September. If I do have to have VA tax withheld from my State Department paycheck, I'm worried that it will suggest I'm still a VA resident, which I do not want to be, particularly once I'm overseas. I will have presence here after 3/16, but I have no intention of returning here after training. I realize this may be a tricky question, but any info someone can give me, even general guidance, would be very helpful. Best regards, Charles Goodman << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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