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| L K Williams <lanny[at]loxinfo.co.th> wrote: - quote - > "hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
Nah. Just that as they say, if it's not broke, don't fix it.> > However, I can agree with the the other poster in that it > > has been my experience in 32 years of practice there's no > > problem in sending multiple returns in one envelope. > In the end, it's a matter of opinion and experience, isn't > it? For me, using separate envelopes is just one of those > things I do. It's kinda like George Burns used to say: " I > still chase girls but I've forgotten why." I know I had > problems years ago but that was years ago; I've forgotten > what those problems were but I still keep up the old > practice. > Is this a sign I'm getting old? Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Lanny and Harlan, I'd advise go with what has worked for you before but here are the reasons to my madness ![]() When you send them separately, several things can occur that may delay the processing or even give you different tax adjustment results. The IRS policy is for one employee to work all the cases for a taxpayer. This is done so that processing and adjustments of several cases is consistent. If several returns post on different years are assigned to several employees, then the processing of the returns doesn't start until all the cases are reassigned to one employee. This can lead to delays due to reassigned cases getting lost, or taking several days to weeks to get routed to the one employee. Also, if one of the cases is assigned to an employee that is out on leave, then that case may not get reassigned until the employee returns. Even then, since additional work has been assigned to the employee out on leave, he/she may not actually reassign the case to the one employee for several days after returning. What happens many times when more than one employee works several cases from one taxpayer is inconsistent tax adjustments. One employee may request further documentation or disallow the claim on one year while another employee will allow the same claim but for a different year. Also, one employee may route their case to the audit group while a different employee will allow the claim. If you send in multiple tax returns such as claims (Form 1040X) for multiple years stapled together, then you usually will get all of the returns assigned to one employee. With one employee, you will at least get consistent treatment on all of the returns/claims and there will be minimal delay in processing them. One thing I hated hearing from taxpayers, representatives, preparers, etc. when I worked at the IRS was how they kept getting different answers to the same question, or have them call up and yell at me because one of their claims got denied but the exact same claim for a different year was allowed. Rudy www.LizcanoTaxServicesLLC.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > > To me, the extra postage for two or more envelopes is a
In the end, it's a matter of opinion and experience, isn't> > small price to pay to be sure IRS actually processes each > > separate return. Maybe the service has changed/improved > > processes but I still think it is not worth the risk. > What I advocate is placing each return in a separate > envelope, marked with the year, and then placing both > envelopes in a larger one. Saves postage. > However, I can agree with the the other poster in that it > has been my experience in 32 years of practice there's no > problem in sending multiple returns in one envelope. it? For me, using separate envelopes is just one of those things I do. It's kinda like George Burns used to say: " I still chase girls but I've forgotten why." I know I had problems years ago but that was years ago; I've forgotten what those problems were but I still keep up the old practice. Is this a sign I'm getting old? Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| L K Williams wrote: - quote - > "LTSLLC" <lizcanotaxservicesllc[at]spymac.com> wrote:
What I advocate is placing each return in a separate> > You don't need to attach the 2003/2004 copies to your > > original 2005 tax return. > > > DO send in the 2003/2004 1040X's together. Staple them so > > that the 2003 1040X is on top of the 2004 1040X and about 1 > > inch below the top of the 2004 1040X so that both can be > > easily seen. > > > My advice on sending in the two 1040X's together is based on > > 20 years experience working at the IRS, with 12 of those > > years in IMF Adjustments (now called Tax Accounts) where > > your 1040X's will be processed. > Hi Rudy. With all due respect, I would disagree about > filing the returns together. I've been doing tax returns > for close to 30 years and I did have some problems in the > early years when filing more than one return at a time. So, > for most of my career, I have had my clients mail multiple > returns in separate envelopes. > To me, the extra postage for two or more envelopes is a > small price to pay to be sure IRS actually processes each > separate return. Maybe the service has changed/improved > processes but I still think it is not worth the risk. envelope, marked with the year, and then placing both envelopes in a larger one. Saves postage. However, I can agree with the the other poster in that it has been my experience in 32 years of practice there's no problem in sending multiple returns in one envelope. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "LTSLLC" <lizcanotaxservicesllc[at]spymac.com> wrote: - quote - > You don't need to attach the 2003/2004 copies to your
Hi Rudy. With all due respect, I would disagree about> original 2005 tax return. > DO send in the 2003/2004 1040X's together. Staple them so > that the 2003 1040X is on top of the 2004 1040X and about 1 > inch below the top of the 2004 1040X so that both can be > easily seen. > My advice on sending in the two 1040X's together is based on > 20 years experience working at the IRS, with 12 of those > years in IMF Adjustments (now called Tax Accounts) where > your 1040X's will be processed. filing the returns together. I've been doing tax returns for close to 30 years and I did have some problems in the early years when filing more than one return at a time. So, for most of my career, I have had my clients mail multiple returns in separate envelopes. To me, the extra postage for two or more envelopes is a small price to pay to be sure IRS actually processes each separate return. Maybe the service has changed/improved processes but I still think it is not worth the risk. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| You don't need to attach the 2003/2004 copies to your original 2005 tax return. DO send in the 2003/2004 1040X's together. Staple them so that the 2003 1040X is on top of the 2004 1040X and about 1 inch below the top of the 2004 1040X so that both can be easily seen. My advice on sending in the two 1040X's together is based on 20 years experience working at the IRS, with 12 of those years in IMF Adjustments (now called Tax Accounts) where your 1040X's will be processed. Rudy www.LizcanoTaxServicesLLC.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| b3hks001[at]sneakemail.com wrote: - quote - > LTSLLC wrote:
I don't see any reason to wait, unless you will owe money on> > Yes, you shold file a Form 1040X for 2004. > > > File it together with the 2003 1040X (and 2005's 1040X if > > you already filed the 2005 original return) so that a single > > IRS person will handle all 3 years at once. > > > Also, in case the 1040X's are processed separately by > > different IRS persons, you should staple a copy of the 2003 > > 1040X to the 2004 1040X, and staple a copy of the 2003 and > > 2004 1040X to the 2005 1040X, to show where the carryover is > > coming from. > I haven't file my 2005 Return. I am planning to file the > Amended returns for 2003 and 2004; wait a couple of weeks, > then file my 2005 Return. Do I need to attach my 2003 and > 2004 Amended returns to the 2005 1040? > I guess I can also file an extension for my 2005 Return; and > mail in my 2005 1040 later. If so, how long should I wait? the 2005 return -- in which case you should file on 4/15 anyway. Checking carryovers, etc. is not part of the initial processing of returns. By the time anyone at IRS gets curious about a carryover, all the returns should have been processed and the information can be determined from their records. Even if they don't catch this and write to you, all you would need to do is send a copy of the amended return generating the carryover. I also disagree with the advice to send the 2003 and 2004 returns together. ALWAYS send each years return separately. IRS is known for failure to recognize that two separate returns are enclosed. All the papers can be stapled together and only the one return processed. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| LTSLLC wrote: - quote - > Yes, you shold file a Form 1040X for 2004.
I haven't file my 2005 Return. I am planning to file the> File it together with the 2003 1040X (and 2005's 1040X if > you already filed the 2005 original return) so that a single > IRS person will handle all 3 years at once. > Also, in case the 1040X's are processed separately by > different IRS persons, you should staple a copy of the 2003 > 1040X to the 2004 1040X, and staple a copy of the 2003 and > 2004 1040X to the 2005 1040X, to show where the carryover is > coming from. Amended returns for 2003 and 2004; wait a couple of weeks, then file my 2005 Return. Do I need to attach my 2003 and 2004 Amended returns to the 2005 1040? I guess I can also file an extension for my 2005 Return; and mail in my 2005 1040 later. If so, how long should I wait? TIA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I forgot to mention that on the copies, be sure to write "Copy - Do Not Process" at the very top and even bottom. That will ensure that your 1040X for 2003 and 2004 don't get processed twice. Rudy www.LizcanoTaxServicesLLC.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Yes, you shold file a Form 1040X for 2004. File it together with the 2003 1040X (and 2005's 1040X if you already filed the 2005 original return) so that a single IRS person will handle all 3 years at once. Also, in case the 1040X's are processed separately by different IRS persons, you should staple a copy of the 2003 1040X to the 2004 1040X, and staple a copy of the 2003 and 2004 1040X to the 2005 1040X, to show where the carryover is coming from. Rudy www.LizcanoTaxServicesLLC.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I will be amending 2003 tax return (Form 1040) for omitting a worthless securitiy. That will affect the Capital Loss Carryover from 2003 to 2004; AND 2004 to 2005. Do I need to amend 2004 tax return because of the flow-through?? [There are no other changes in 2004's tax return.] TIA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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