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| DF2 wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman wrote:
Sorry, thought you said 4 countries not 5. It doesn't> > DF2 wrote: > > > Foreign Tax Credit, Form 1116 and Pub 514 are confusing me > > > again. > > > > > Suppose a single taxpayer gets $340 in foreign tax withheld > > > on dividends on a single 1099-DIV. While the 1099 does not > > > break this down, it turns out that $300 was withheld by > > > Canada, and $10 was withheld by each of 4 more countries. > > > > > Just entering $300, ignoring the extra $40, on line 47 of > > > 1040 would be nice. That does not seem to be allowed. > > > > > So two form 1116 are filled out for passive. Copy 1 has > > > countries/columns A, B and C filled out. A number is > > > computed on line 21 (end of part III) of copy 1 that would > > > make it onto line 47 of form 1040 if that were the end of > > > it. > > > > > But with the second copy of form 1116, countries/columns A, > > > and B are also filled out. This produces another number on > > > line 21 of copy 2. > > > > > Logically the two line 21s would be added together in part > > > IV of copy 1. However line 22 is for passive income. Lines > > > 23...29 are for other types of income. So would you put the > > > passive income tax credits from copy 2 on line 23 and > > > re-label the line? Would you just put the sum of the two > > > line 21s onto line 22? > > > > > Also, are there any allowed simplifications? I seem to > > > remember putting Various as a country in the past, yet pub > > > 514 does not mention that. I could imagine a worldwide > > > mutual fund having bits of tax withheld from 10 countries. > > > That would be really tedious. I know that pub 514 is not > > > complete. The examples given there are all for one country. > > You only complete one 1116 for one type of income. As you > > only have 4 countries, just divide Column C into C & D and > > make the Total Column equal A,B,C & D. > I am not sure which way you are suggesting. Are you saying > to put country A and B into the first two columns, and put > the totals of the remainder (actually three more countries) > into column C, and perhaps identify the remainder counties > as "Various"? > Or are you saying to take a ruler and divide column B and C > into smaller columns to support the total of 5 separate > countries with their own columns using small writing? matter what you do. Just divide up the columns so that you get 5 countries and a total. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| ed wrote: - quote - > Just call it one country,, use "various" on one 1116 for
Actually the result is not the same. Really.> the total. The end result is the same. I like your method, because it gives favorable results, and it is simpler. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > DF2 wrote:
I am not sure which way you are suggesting. Are you saying> > Foreign Tax Credit, Form 1116 and Pub 514 are confusing me > > again. > > > Suppose a single taxpayer gets $340 in foreign tax withheld > > on dividends on a single 1099-DIV. While the 1099 does not > > break this down, it turns out that $300 was withheld by > > Canada, and $10 was withheld by each of 4 more countries. > > > Just entering $300, ignoring the extra $40, on line 47 of > > 1040 would be nice. That does not seem to be allowed. > > > So two form 1116 are filled out for passive. Copy 1 has > > countries/columns A, B and C filled out. A number is > > computed on line 21 (end of part III) of copy 1 that would > > make it onto line 47 of form 1040 if that were the end of > > it. > > > But with the second copy of form 1116, countries/columns A, > > and B are also filled out. This produces another number on > > line 21 of copy 2. > > > Logically the two line 21s would be added together in part > > IV of copy 1. However line 22 is for passive income. Lines > > 23...29 are for other types of income. So would you put the > > passive income tax credits from copy 2 on line 23 and > > re-label the line? Would you just put the sum of the two > > line 21s onto line 22? > > > Also, are there any allowed simplifications? I seem to > > remember putting Various as a country in the past, yet pub > > 514 does not mention that. I could imagine a worldwide > > mutual fund having bits of tax withheld from 10 countries. > > That would be really tedious. I know that pub 514 is not > > complete. The examples given there are all for one country. > You only complete one 1116 for one type of income. As you > only have 4 countries, just divide Column C into C & D and > make the Total Column equal A,B,C & D. to put country A and B into the first two columns, and put the totals of the remainder (actually three more countries) into column C, and perhaps identify the remainder counties as "Various"? Or are you saying to take a ruler and divide column B and C into smaller columns to support the total of 5 separate countries with their own columns using small writing? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Just call it one country,, use "various" on one 1116 for the total. The end result is the same. ed << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| DF2 wrote: - quote - > Foreign Tax Credit, Form 1116 and Pub 514 are confusing me
You only complete one 1116 for one type of income. As you> again. > Suppose a single taxpayer gets $340 in foreign tax withheld > on dividends on a single 1099-DIV. While the 1099 does not > break this down, it turns out that $300 was withheld by > Canada, and $10 was withheld by each of 4 more countries. > Just entering $300, ignoring the extra $40, on line 47 of > 1040 would be nice. That does not seem to be allowed. > So two form 1116 are filled out for passive. Copy 1 has > countries/columns A, B and C filled out. A number is > computed on line 21 (end of part III) of copy 1 that would > make it onto line 47 of form 1040 if that were the end of > it. > But with the second copy of form 1116, countries/columns A, > and B are also filled out. This produces another number on > line 21 of copy 2. > Logically the two line 21s would be added together in part > IV of copy 1. However line 22 is for passive income. Lines > 23...29 are for other types of income. So would you put the > passive income tax credits from copy 2 on line 23 and > re-label the line? Would you just put the sum of the two > line 21s onto line 22? > Also, are there any allowed simplifications? I seem to > remember putting Various as a country in the past, yet pub > 514 does not mention that. I could imagine a worldwide > mutual fund having bits of tax withheld from 10 countries. > That would be really tedious. I know that pub 514 is not > complete. The examples given there are all for one country. only have 4 countries, just divide Column C into C & D and make the Total Column equal A,B,C & D. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Foreign Tax Credit, Form 1116 and Pub 514 are confusing me again. Suppose a single taxpayer gets $340 in foreign tax withheld on dividends on a single 1099-DIV. While the 1099 does not break this down, it turns out that $300 was withheld by Canada, and $10 was withheld by each of 4 more countries. Just entering $300, ignoring the extra $40, on line 47 of 1040 would be nice. That does not seem to be allowed. So two form 1116 are filled out for passive. Copy 1 has countries/columns A, B and C filled out. A number is computed on line 21 (end of part III) of copy 1 that would make it onto line 47 of form 1040 if that were the end of it. But with the second copy of form 1116, countries/columns A, and B are also filled out. This produces another number on line 21 of copy 2. Logically the two line 21s would be added together in part IV of copy 1. However line 22 is for passive income. Lines 23...29 are for other types of income. So would you put the passive income tax credits from copy 2 on line 23 and re-label the line? Would you just put the sum of the two line 21s onto line 22? Also, are there any allowed simplifications? I seem to remember putting Various as a country in the past, yet pub 514 does not mention that. I could imagine a worldwide mutual fund having bits of tax withheld from 10 countries. That would be really tedious. I know that pub 514 is not complete. The examples given there are all for one country. Thanks. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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