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| Stuart A. Bronstein wrote: - quote - > "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
Well, sad to say, it's right in the regulations under IRC> > Maybe. Partially. You can claim the expenses for which you > > received taxable reimbursement on Schedule A, subject to the > > 2% of AGI exclusion for miscellaneous itemized deductions. > Why should this kind of thing be on his return at all? In > essence he lent money to the company. When they paid him > back they put it on his W-2. I don't see why it should be > subject to the 2% exclusion. The employer misstated income. > Why should the taxpayer suffer? Sec. 62. Reg. Sec. 1.62-2(c) provides that if an employee's business expenses are reimbursed under an "accountable plan," the reimbursement is not included in the employee's income. If they are reimbursed under a "nonaccountable plan," the reimbursement must be included in the employee's income, and the employee may deduct the expenses to the extent they can be substantiated, but only as miscellaneous itemized deductions (Form 2106) subject to the 2% AGI floor. An accountable plan is defined as one that, among other things, requires expenses to be substantiated to the employer within a "reasonable time" (Reg. Sec. 1.62-2(e)(1)). A safe harbor definition of a "reasonable time" is 60 days (Reg. Sec. 1.62-2(g)(2)(i)). So, to the extent the expenses were not submitted to the employer within 60 days, the reimbursement is treated as coming from a nonaccountable plan. The employer must include the reimbursement in the employee's W-2, and the employee can deduct them only as a miscellaneous itemized deduction. Moral: get that expense report in within 60 days! Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Stuart A. Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > Why should [taxable travel reimbursements] be on his return
The employer has the choice between accountable and> at all? In essence he lent money to the company. When they > paid him back they put it on his W-2. I don't see why it > should be subject to the 2% exclusion. The employer misstated > income. Why should the taxpayer suffer? nonaccountable plans. AFIAK they're free to set their own standards for accountable, as long as they meet the statute's conditions. As I recall the OP, part of this employer's rules for the accountable plan is that expenses be claimed within 60 days. After that, it's a nonaccaountable reimbursement subject to payroll taxes and includable in the employee's income. The only way to get rid of it is an employee business expense deduction. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > Maybe. Partially. You can claim the expenses for which you
Why should this kind of thing be on his return at all? In> received taxable reimbursement on Schedule A, subject to the > 2% of AGI exclusion for miscellaneous itemized deductions. essence he lent money to the company. When they paid him back they put it on his W-2. I don't see why it should be subject to the 2% exclusion. The employer misstated income. Why should the taxpayer suffer? Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| braveheart002002[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My company has a policy that if the business travel expense
Form 2106.> vouchers are filed after 60 days of the expense they are > treated as income and thus will add up to the income in the > w-2 form. Now I did have this situation and I had used the > after tax money for the business travel expenses and ended > up paying tax on it again when I got the expense voucher > money. > Is there any way to make adjustments when filing the year > end taxes so that i dont end up paying double tax on the > amount spend on business travel expenses ? Missy Doyle << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <braveheart002002[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My company has a policy that if the business travel expense
I think you can call it "unreimbursed employee business> vouchers are filed after 60 days of the expense they are > treated as income and thus will add up to the income in the > w-2 form. Now I did have this situation and I had used the > after tax money for the business travel expenses and ended > up paying tax on it again when I got the expense voucher > money. > Is there any way to make adjustments when filing the year > end taxes so that i dont end up paying double tax on the > amount spend on business travel expenses ? expense" (since they increased your pay rather than giving you a reimbursement), but that's subject to a 2% of income haircut before it's worth anything. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <braveheart002002[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My company has a policy that if the business travel expense
No, you didn't "pay the tax." They withheld from this> vouchers are filed after 60 days of the expense they are > treated as income and thus will add up to the income in the > w-2 form. Now I did have this situation and I had used the > after tax money for the business travel expenses and ended > up paying tax on it again when I got the expense voucher > money. payment as they would from any wage payment. - quote - > Is there any way to make adjustments when filing the year
Maybe. Partially. You can claim the expenses for which you> end taxes so that i dont end up paying double tax on the > amount spend on business travel expenses ? received taxable reimbursement on Schedule A, subject to the 2% of AGI exclusion for miscellaneous itemized deductions. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My company has a policy that if the business travel expense vouchers are filed after 60 days of the expense they are treated as income and thus will add up to the income in the w-2 form. Now I did have this situation and I had used the after tax money for the business travel expenses and ended up paying tax on it again when I got the expense voucher money. Is there any way to make adjustments when filing the year end taxes so that i dont end up paying double tax on the amount spend on business travel expenses ? Thanks << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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