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| "Stuart A. Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > David Woods <davidwoods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
Forget that. I just went back and reread the OP's status.> > "jazu" <nofreakingspam[at]nospam.com> wrote: > > > Another question. > > > If I was self-employed too, and on Canada soil I was doing > > > work for US company, do I have include this income as well? > > US taxation applies to worldwide income. > But does the exemption apply for citizens working abroad? Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| David Woods <davidwoods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "jazu" <nofreakingspam[at]nospam.com> wrote:
But does the exemption apply for citizens working abroad?> > Another question. > > If I was self-employed too, and on Canada soil I was doing > > work for US company, do I have include this income as well? > US taxation applies to worldwide income. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| David Woods <davidwoods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "jazu" <nofreakingspam[at]nospam.com> wrote:
OP is not a US citizen or resident (at the time of doing> > Another question. > > If I was self-employed too, and on Canada soil I was doing > > work for US company, do I have include this income as well? > US taxation applies to worldwide income. that work). If he hadn't done any work in the US, the work he did in Canada clearly wouldn't be taxable by the US. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "jazu" <nofreakingspam[at]nospam.com> wrote: - quote - > Another question.
US taxation applies to worldwide income.> If I was self-employed too, and on Canada soil I was doing > work for US company, do I have include this income as well? -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > > So in both cases your taxes would be based on $60,000
No, it's your income minus deductions. You don't enter> > income, not $55,000 or $48,000. > Thanks guy for explanation. I was kind a lost because it is > so confusing. Line 14 Says. 14. Taxable income. Subtract > line 13 form 12 (Taxable income is written bold, and this > is amount income-withholds) withholding until line 18. You subtract that from the total tax to get the amount you owe or will receive as a refund. - quote - > Next line 15 says.
What more explanation do you need other than look it up in> 15. Tax. Find you tax in the tax table. > So you could assume that you take number from line 14, and > the funniest thing guide omits line 15 in explanation. the table? The instructions don't bother with lines whose instructions on the form are simple. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > > So in both cases your taxes would be based on $60,000
No, it's not "income - withholds". It's "income -> > income, not $55,000 or $48,000. > Thanks guy for explanation. I was kind a lost because it is > so confusing. Line 14 Says. 14. Taxable income. Subtract line > 13 form 12 (Taxable income is written bold, and this is > amount income-withholds) exemptions" (actually, it's income - itemized deductions - exemptions). Exemptions (and itemized deductions) are completely independent of withholdings. All withholdings are is an estimated pre-payment of tax. The withholdings enter the return on line 18, as part of computing the tax *payments* you have made/are marking. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Another question. If I was self-employed too, and on Canada soil I was doing work for US company, do I have include this income as well? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > So in both cases your taxes would be based on $60,000
Thanks guy for explanation. I was kind a lost because it is> income, not $55,000 or $48,000. so confusing. Line 14 Says. 14. Taxable income. Subtract line 13 form 12 (Taxable income is written bold, and this is amount income-withholds) Next line 15 says. 15. Tax. Find you tax in the tax table. So you could assume that you take number from line 14, and the funniest thing guide omits line 15 in explanation. Thanks again << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > "jazu" wrote....
Your W-2 might have several types of tax withholding,> I'm Canadian and I'm preparing income tax on 1040NR-EZ form. > 1. Let's say you made 60.000/year and say employer withheld > from you 5.000 for taxes. > According to tax table you pay tax from $55.000 so it makes > $10.421, so you have send check to IRS for $4.579. > But you end up paying $10.421. > 2. Say employer withheld you $12.000 so you pay from $48.000 > and it makes $8671. > In this case IRS should send you check for return 3329. > So in exp1 I end up paying - $10.421 > In exp 2 ------------------------$8671. Federal, State, Local, Social Security, Medicare. I assume your calculation scenarios include the Federal Tax Withholdings of 5000 & 12000 as an itemized deduction on line 11, (do not do this), these figures belong only on line 18. The entry for line 11 is for State & local income tax withholdings only! ============== - quote - > Does it mean if employer withhold more from you pay les
It's possible the current years tax due might be lower due> taxes on the end or I'm doing something wrong wit my calcs? > I appreciate any explanation. to an excessive amount of STATE & LOCAL tax withholdings, excessive meaning that a portion of your -NONRESIDENT- state & local income taxes Withheld are in excess of your actual liability as computed on the state & local returns, if so the following year you will report the refunds received on line 4 (this in effect recovers the excess deduction of the prior year). Some folks will calculate the actual tax due and deduct only that amount, in turn rendering the refund of excess W/H's nontaxable in the following year. Calculating using either method is acceptable, in some states, like Rhode Island, it is easier to deduct the Withholding amount, VS recalculating over & over again until the optimal number is reached, RI and few other states use what is called a PIGGY BACK calculation based on the Federal Return. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jazu <nofreakingspam[at]nospam.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm Canadian and I'm preparing income tax on 1040NR-EZ form.
Your tax liability is based on your total taxable income,> 1. Let's say you made 60.000/year and say employer withheld > from you 5.000 for taxes. > According to tax table you pay tax from $55.000 so it makes > $10.421, so you have send check to IRS for $4.579. > But you end up paying $10.421. > 2. Say employer withheld you $12.000 so you pay from $48.000 > and it makes $8671. > In this case IRS should send you check for return 3329. > So in exp1 I end up paying - $10.421 > In exp 2 ------------------------$8671. > Does it mean if employer withhold more from you pay les > taxes on the end or I'm doing something wrong wit my calcs? not your income after taxes are withheld. What you owe or get back on April 15 is simply the difference between your tax liability and what you've already paid through withholding and estimated tax payments. So in both cases your taxes would be based on $60,000 income, not $55,000 or $48,000. The only way that a change in withholding affects your taxes is if you owe enough to incur a penalty for underwithholding. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jazu <nofreakingspam[at]nospam.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm Canadian and I'm preparing income tax on 1040NR-EZ form.
No, you pay tax on the full $60,000.> 1. Let's say you made 60.000/year and say employer withheld > from you 5.000 for taxes. > According to tax table you pay tax from $55.000 Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I'm Canadian and I'm preparing income tax on 1040NR-EZ form. 1. Let's say you made 60.000/year and say employer withheld from you 5.000 for taxes. According to tax table you pay tax from $55.000 so it makes $10.421, so you have send check to IRS for $4.579. But you end up paying $10.421. 2. Say employer withheld you $12.000 so you pay from $48.000 and it makes $8671. In this case IRS should send you check for return 3329. So in exp1 I end up paying - $10.421 In exp 2 ------------------------$8671. Does it mean if employer withhold more from you pay les taxes on the end or I'm doing something wrong wit my calcs? I appreciate any explanation. Thanks jazu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |