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| dsellinger[at]gmail.com - quote - > Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
We are on the same page so far. And note the holding period> > "Wayne Rivers" <wayne[at]wayneriverscpa.com> wrote: > > > Question: > > > > > If someone owns land and builds a spec home on it and later > > > sells it, is the capital gain long term because the land is > > > owned over 1 year or short term because the house is sold > > > soon after completion? > > It's ordinary income because he built it to sell, not as a > > long term investment. > Isn't the whole idea of building a house to sell considered > an investment? Besides an owner may have bought property > with the idea of keeping it, but market forces are such that > selling it would be considered the wisest use of said asset. > In~vest~ment n. - Property or another possession acquired > for future financial return or benefit. > And long term is defined by the IRS as longer then one year. for the house begins when it is completed. - quote - > Unless there are some rules about holding periods being
In the OP's situation, the owner of the land added capital to> somehow "reset" by a major change to a property. (Could the > issuance of new higher valued stock in a takeover be viewed > in the same way? would your initial date of ownership be for > the issuance of the new stock, or for the date you bought > the original now taken over companies stock.) the land creating a second asset. To make the situations analogous, the shareholder would take the conversion and buy additional shares. Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Victor Roberts xxx[at]lighting-research.com wrote: - quote - > Dick Adams rdadams[at]smart.net wrote:
Keep in mind - the bulk of his profits come from the general> > "Wayne Rivers" wayne[at]wayneriverscpa.com wrote: > > > Question: > > > > > If someone owns land and builds a spec home on it and later > > > sells it, is the capital gain long term because the land is > > > owned over 1 year or short term because the house is sold > > > soon after completion? > > > > > In this case, the taxpayer is not planning on doing this as > > > a business - should be a one-time shot. He did the general > > > contracting himself. > > What is a "spec home"? If "spec home" means he built it on > > the 'speculation' of making a profit, then his profits are > > ordinary income. > Usually one built to your specifications as opposed to a > mass produced home or even an individual home built to an > existing plan. contractor (GC) fees he avoided by doing the work himself. He certainly does not want to pay himself so he can pay the self-employment taxes. Also since he acted as his own GC, he may have a problem convincing an auditor that the house was intended to be his personal residence. But even before you get that far, his gain on the house is ordinary income because he did not own the house for at least the year. He may have an argument on the land. Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > What is a "spec home"?
Usually one built to your specifications as opposed to amass produced home or even an individual home built to an existing plan. -- Vic Roberts Replace xxx with vdr in e-mail address. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Stuart A. Bronstein wrote: - quote - > "Wayne Rivers" <wayne[at]wayneriverscpa.com> wrote:
Isn't the whole idea of building a house to sell considered> > Question: > > > If someone owns land and builds a spec home on it and later > > sells it, is the capital gain long term because the land is > > owned over 1 year or short term because the house is sold > > soon after completion? > It's ordinary income because he built it to sell, not as a > long term investment. an investment? Besides an owner may have bought property with the idea of keeping it, but market forces are such that selling it would be considered the wisest use of said asset. In~vest~ment n. - Property or another possession acquired for future financial return or benefit. And long term is defined by the IRS as longer then one year. Unless there are some rules about holding periods being somehow "reset" by a major change to a property. (Could the issuance of new higher valued stock in a takeover be viewed in the same way? would your initial date of ownership be for the issuance of the new stock, or for the date you bought the original now taken over companies stock.) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Wayne Rivers" <wayne[at]wayneriverscpa.com> wrote: - quote - > Question:
It's ordinary income because he built it to sell, not as a> If someone owns land and builds a spec home on it and later > sells it, is the capital gain long term because the land is > owned over 1 year or short term because the house is sold > soon after completion? long term investment. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Wayne Rivers" <wayne[at]wayneriverscpa.com> wrote: - quote - > Question:
What is a "spec home"? If "spec home" means he built it on> If someone owns land and builds a spec home on it and later > sells it, is the capital gain long term because the land is > owned over 1 year or short term because the house is sold > soon after completion? the 'speculation' of making a profit, then his profits are ordinary income. Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Question: If someone owns land and builds a spec home on it and later sells it, is the capital gain long term because the land is owned over 1 year or short term because the house is sold soon after completion? In this case, the taxpayer is not planning on doing this as a business - should be a one-time shot. He did the general contracting himself. Thanks Wayne Rivers, CPA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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