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| "D.F. Manno" <dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com> wrote: - quote - > My sister and the SOB ....... that is her ex have a son.
Just a caution here, Unc. When you have the facts on yourside, invective is unnecessary. It can even be harmful. There may be absolutely no way in the world that she would ever get back with the SOB, but I've seen people do a lot more stupid things. In such event, everyone who ever spoke against him, even when confirming what she just said, is dead meat. - quote - > Since the son lives with her most of the time, she's
Right> considered the custodial parent. - quote - > She got an e-mail from the SOB saying he has learned that if
It's going to be taxable even with the dependency exemption.> he can not claim the son as a dependent his payments into a > dependent-care FSA will be taxable. The child can qualify only the custodial parent for this credit. They cannot choose to pass it off the way they can the dependency exemption. - quote - > (Well, duh! What did he
See there? You didn't understand it either.> think the word "dependent" is there for?) - quote - > He proposes that
As noted, it won't work unless he files a fraudulent return> she sign a Form 8332 allowing him to claim the boy, so that > he will avoid paying the taxes on his FSA contributions. stating that the kid lived with him. - quote - > He says he would reimburse my sister for the lost child tax
This is not true. As noted before, the child care credit is> credit. > Then he overplays his hand by saying that she can instead > claim the child-care credit for not only her expenses but > _his_ as well, saying that they both would come out ahead as > a result. My understanding is that she would not be able to > take the child-care credit for her expenses unless she can > claims the boy as a dependent. available only to the custodial parent. If you have sister's best interest in mind you'll tell her that claiming expenses on her return that she didn't incur is called fraud. It sounds to me like Sis is best off telling ex "Thanks, but no thanks." She's fair warned that doing otherwise will bring her nothing but deserved trouble. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| D.F. Manno wrote: - quote - > My sister and the SOB ....... that is her ex have a son.
The custodial parent is the only one who can make a claim for> Since the son lives with her most of the time, she's > considered the custodial parent. > She got an e-mail from the SOB saying he has learned that if > he can not claim the son as a dependent his payments into a > dependent-care FSA will be taxable. (Well, duh! What did he > think the word "dependent" is there for?) He proposes that > she sign a Form 8332 allowing him to claim the boy, so that > he will avoid paying the taxes on his FSA contributions. He > says he would reimburse my sister for the lost child tax > credit. > Then he overplays his hand by saying that she can instead > claim the child-care credit for not only her expenses but > _his_ as well, saying that they both would come out ahead as > a result. My understanding is that she would not be able to > take the child-care credit for her expenses unless she can > claims the boy as a dependent. She could _never_ take the > credit for the SOPB's expenses. Am I right about this? > Also, I have a nagging feeling that there's something else > wrong with this that I'm missing. Any ideas? dependent care benefits. This is true even if the exemption is released to the noncustodial parent. A noncustodial parent is not eligible for dependent care benefits and as far as I can see, the contributions would still be taxed. If she incurs childcare expense she can claim only her own expense in filing for the credit. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "D.F. Manno" <dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com> wrote - quote - > My sister and the SOB ....... that is her ex have a son.
A qualifying child for the child care credit does not have> Since the son lives with her most of the time, she's > considered the custodial parent. > She got an e-mail from the SOB saying he has learned that if > he can not claim the son as a dependent his payments into a > dependent-care FSA will be taxable. (Well, duh! What did he > think the word "dependent" is there for?) He proposes that > she sign a Form 8332 allowing him to claim the boy, so that > he will avoid paying the taxes on his FSA contributions. He > says he would reimburse my sister for the lost child tax > credit. > Then he overplays his hand by saying that she can instead > claim the child-care credit for not only her expenses but > _his_ as well, saying that they both would come out ahead as > a result. My understanding is that she would not be able to > take the child-care credit for her expenses unless she can > claims the boy as a dependent. She could _never_ take the > credit for the SOPB's expenses. Am I right about this? to be a dependent of the taxpayer claiming the credit. But she can't claim the amount he pays. From what you say in your post, she's the only one entitled to the credit because the child lives with her for the greater part of the year. - quote - > Also, I have a nagging feeling that there's something else
Me thinks he's trying to double dip.> wrong with this that I'm missing. Any ideas? It may cost a bit of money, but have her run this past her divorce attorney, maybe get him/her to draft a letter explaing the rules of conduct. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My sister and the SOB ....... that is her ex have a son. Since the son lives with her most of the time, she's considered the custodial parent. She got an e-mail from the SOB saying he has learned that if he can not claim the son as a dependent his payments into a dependent-care FSA will be taxable. (Well, duh! What did he think the word "dependent" is there for?) He proposes that she sign a Form 8332 allowing him to claim the boy, so that he will avoid paying the taxes on his FSA contributions. He says he would reimburse my sister for the lost child tax credit. Then he overplays his hand by saying that she can instead claim the child-care credit for not only her expenses but _his_ as well, saying that they both would come out ahead as a result. My understanding is that she would not be able to take the child-care credit for her expenses unless she can claims the boy as a dependent. She could _never_ take the credit for the SOPB's expenses. Am I right about this? Also, I have a nagging feeling that there's something else wrong with this that I'm missing. Any ideas? TIA. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com The problem with being sure that God is on your side is that you can't change your mind, because God sure isn't going to change His. (Roger Ebert) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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