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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > SO bad, that Leroy and Loretta Lockhorn just today were at
Here it is:> IRS office to get tax forms and since Leroy can't decide > which to take, Loretta advises to take the short form, based > on how much money he makes. (for full flavor, see your > local comic page in newspaper.) http://tinyurl.com/bxbop <verified by moderator << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Gil Faver wrote: (schnipped.....!) - quote - > Not to mention how many pretty common forms are left out of
Things have gotten SO bad....> the booklets. Or their poor instructions and index - the > index includes, of course, "income", but "deduction" is > nowhere to be found. SO bad, that Leroy and Loretta Lockhorn just today were at IRS office to get tax forms and since Leroy can't decide which to take, Loretta advises to take the short form, based on how much money he makes. (for full flavor, see your local comic page in newspaper.) ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Fri 3 Feb 2006 << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Bill wrote:
I've filled using TaxCut several years. The IRS sends me> > IRS stopped sending forms to anyone who has e-filed (and I > > believe they discontinued Telefile in favor of "free > > e-filing" from www.irs.gov). > Slight correction, Bill. I efile and still receive my > booklet every year from THEIRS. So the rule is probably > "those who use a paid preparer" don't get the booklets. > Clients who ask me why they don't get booklets anymore, > either from IRS, Alabama or Georgia, get my standard reply: > "Because, they have you classified as FOH." > Oh, FOH means "friend of Harlan". nada. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote in - quote - > jik[at]kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens) writes:
They haven't sent me the Trust forms and booklet for years,> > Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> writes: > > > Slight correction, Bill. I efile and still receive my > > > booklet every year from THEIRS. So the rule is probably > > > "those who use a paid preparer" don't get the booklets. > > I've never used a paid preparer and they haven't mailed > > me a booklet in years. > I believe that if "they" see you used a computer program > to prepare your return (even if you filed a physical > return), you won't be sent a booklet. even though I never used a program or e-filed, and despite the fact that for about 5 years I called them and asked to start receiving this needed information, and was assured I would. I gave up on this, as well as many other things . . ... Not to mention how many pretty common forms are left out of the booklets. Or their poor instructions and index - the index includes, of course, "income", but "deduction" is nowhere to be found. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Barry Duncan" <bduncan[at]block.spam.org> wrote: - quote - > "Ian Pilcher" <i.pilcher[at]comcast.net> wrote: www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf (and it's 142 pages long).> > The point is that all of the forms and instructions that > > they might mail to you are available on the IRS web site. > Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long) > are not on the IRS website. Ira Smilovitz << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long)
Umm, yes they are. (That's where I got the i1040.pdf that's> are not on the IRS website. sitting on my computer right now.) -- ================================================== ====================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== ====================== << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > > The point is that all of the forms and instructions that
You mean http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf which> > they might mail to you are available on the IRS web site. > Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long) > are not on the IRS website. is the instructions for the basic 1040 or http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf which is the 1040 instruction book including Schedules A, B, C, D, etc? -- Don EA in Upstate NY << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Barry Duncan" <bduncan[at]block.spam.org> writes: - quote - > "Ian Pilcher" <i.pilcher[at]comcast.net> wrote:
Wrong.> > The point is that all of the forms and instructions that > > they might mail to you are available on the IRS web site. > Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long) > are not on the IRS website. See: http://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1040gi/index.html or http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Barry Duncan" <bduncan[at]block.spam.org> writes: - quote - > Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long) http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf seems to be what> are not on the IRS website. you are looking for? That's 142 PDF pages, which comes out to 71 double-sided, which I imagine is what you meant. Really, after reading your message, I just knew you had to be wrong and the document was going to be there when I went looking for it. Doesn't it seem just a little bit unbelievable to you that the IRS would put virtually all their forms, instructions and publications on-line but not put on-line the one instruction booklet used by more people than any other? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Barry Duncan wrote: - quote - > "Ian Pilcher" <i.pilcher[at]comcast.net> wrote:
There's one that's 85 pages and one that includes several> > The point is that all of the forms and instructions that > > they might mail to you are available on the IRS web site. > Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long) > are not on the IRS website. schedules that's 142 pages. (Under forms and instructions, not under publications). Maren << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Ian Pilcher" <i.pilcher[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > The point is that all of the forms and instructions that
Wrong. 1040 tax instruction booklets (70 odd pages long)> they might mail to you are available on the IRS web site. are not on the IRS website. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| jik[at]kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens) writes: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> writes:
I believe that if "they" see you used a computer program> > Slight correction, Bill. I efile and still receive my > > booklet every year from THEIRS. So the rule is probably > > "those who use a paid preparer" don't get the booklets. > I've never used a paid preparer and they haven't mailed me a > booklet in years. to prepare your return (even if you filed a physical return), you won't be sent a booklet. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jonathan Kamens wrote: - quote - Darn. I was hoping that page would offer a way for me to tell them to stop wasting money mailing the dratted things to me. -- ================================================== ====================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== ====================== << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| David Rennick wrote: - quote - > Let me get this straight. You mean I can file
The point is that all of the forms and instructions that> electronically even though my wife and son live outside the > USA and I need to get an ITIN for my wife as well as provide > the IRS with myriad personal documents, including birth > certificates, certified/notarized passports etc.? So I > guess I just attach about a dozen scanned personal documents > along with my e-filed forms and then watch the IRS go to > work huh? Thanks for the great advice. they might mail to you are available on the IRS web site. -- ================================================== ====================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== ====================== << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "David Rennick" <drennick[at]firewall.com> wrote: - quote - > > David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
He wasn't talking about filing electronically, he was> > Let me get this straight. You have access to the internet > > and presumably the IRS website (with forms and > > instructions), and this is a concern to you? > Let me get this straight. You mean I can file > electronically even though my wife and son live outside the > USA and I need to get an ITIN for my wife as well as provide > the IRS with myriad personal documents, including birth > certificates, certified/notarized passports etc.? So I > guess I just attach about a dozen scanned personal documents > along with my e-filed forms and then watch the IRS go to > work huh? Thanks for the great advice. talking about going to the web site and downloading the forms. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Bill wrote:
I've never used a paid preparer. I e-file with TurboTax and> > IRS stopped sending forms to anyone who has e-filed (and I > > believe they discontinued Telefile in favor of "free > > e-filing" from www.irs.gov). > Slight correction, Bill. I efile and still receive my > booklet every year from THEIRS. So the rule is probably > "those who use a paid preparer" don't get the booklets. I haven't received a booklet in years. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net (Harlan=A0Lunsford) wrote: - quote - > Bill wrote:
But our "clients" at TaxAide complain they've stopped> > IRS stopped sending forms to anyone who > > has e-filed (and I believe they discontinued > > Telefile in favor of "free e-filing" from > > www.irs.gov). > Slight correction, Bill. =A0 I efile and still receive > my booklet every year from THEIRS. =A0 So the > rule is probably "those who use a paid > preparer" don't get the booklets. receiving forms, since we've been e-filing for them. And in my personal case, I have continued to choose the alternative of a paper return -- partly for confidentiality and partly because I'm a dedicated Luddite -- yet I didn't get any 1040 Booklet or our MFJ "personal label" for the past two years (but, as I remarked, I still received my 1040V in the 1040-ES package -- but that was in March last year, I think). - quote - > Clients who ask me why they don't get
Maybe they have me classified that way. I would be proud to> booklets anymore, either from IRS, Alabama > or Georgia, get my standard reply: "Because, > they have you classified as FOH." > Oh, FOH means "friend of Harlan". accept the honor. <bg Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> writes: - quote - > Slight correction, Bill. I efile and still receive my
I've never used a paid preparer and they haven't mailed me a> booklet every year from THEIRS. So the rule is probably > "those who use a paid preparer" don't get the booklets. booklet in years. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "David Rennick" <drennick[at]firewall.com> writes: - quote - > > David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
Mr. Woods didn't say anything about filing electronically.> > Let me get this straight. You have access to the internet > > and presumably the IRS website (with forms and > > instructions), and this is a concern to you? > Let me get this straight. You mean I can file > electronically even though... He said you can get exactly the forms and instructions you need from the IRS Web site, so there's no reason to get worked up about the fact that the IRS didn't mail anything to you. In fact, given the apparently complicated nature of your taxes, whatever the IRS might have mailed to you would certainly not have been sufficient, so in any case you would have been downloading forms from the IRS Web site or getting them in some other way other than by having the IRS mail them to you by default. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Bill wrote: - quote - > IRS stopped sending forms to anyone who has e-filed (and I
Slight correction, Bill. I efile and still receive my> believe they discontinued Telefile in favor of "free > e-filing" from www.irs.gov). booklet every year from THEIRS. So the rule is probably "those who use a paid preparer" don't get the booklets. Clients who ask me why they don't get booklets anymore, either from IRS, Alabama or Georgia, get my standard reply: "Because, they have you classified as FOH." Oh, FOH means "friend of Harlan". ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Mon 30 Jan 2006 << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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