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Old 03-12-2006, 08:06 AM
AK47
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> > Can a company issue bonds that can be purchased with
> > existing stock. If so, how is that taxed?


> Never heard of such a thing and can't figure out why any
> company would do it or whether they can do it. One sells
> debt instruments to raise cash.


A public company would probably never do it. The closely
held company I used to work for did it to buy out over time
a group of minority stockholders.It was a taxable event for
the outgoing shareholders.

They could have been given non-voting preferred stock on a
tax-free exchenge, but it would have benn Seccion 306 stock
(gain on sale taxable as ordinary income).

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Old 01-27-2006, 12:50 AM
Ernie Klein
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

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> When you have convertible bonds and you exchange them for
> stock, is there a taxable event. Example: A convertible
> bond with a face value of $1000 is convertible into 25
> shares of common stock. When the stock is $50 per share,
> you convert. Your basis in the stock is now $40 per share
> ($1000 / 25). When are you taxed on the $250 gain? Now
> or upon sale.


What gain? All you received is stock, not money. When you
do sell the stock you _might_ have a gain, unless what went
up, goes back down, and you end up selling for less than
$40/share -- then you will have a loss, and no gain at all.

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Old 01-27-2006, 12:31 AM
A.G. Kalman
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Dick Adams wrote:

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> When you have convertible bonds and you exchange them for
> stock, is there a taxable event. Example: A convertible
> bond with a face value of $1000 is convertible into 25
> shares of common stock. When the stock is $50 per share,
> you convert. Your basis in the stock is now $40 per share
> ($1000 / 25). When are you taxed on the $250 gain? Now
> or upon sale.


Direct answer: On a straight swap the cost basis and holding
period moves to the stock. There is no taxable event until
the stock is sold.

- quote -

> Can a company issue bonds that can be purchased with
> existing stock. If so, how is that taxed?


Never heard of such a thing and can't figure out why any
company would do it or whether they can do it. One sells
debt instruments to raise cash.

- quote -

> I ask this because I know that stock for bonds does not
> appear to be a like-kind exchange.



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Old 01-25-2006, 09:46 PM
Dick Adams
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Default Convertible Bonds and vice versa

When you have convertible bonds and you exchange them for
stock, is there a taxable event. Example: A convertible
bond with a face value of $1000 is convertible into 25
shares of common stock. When the stock is $50 per share,
you convert. Your basis in the stock is now $40 per share
($1000 / 25). When are you taxed on the $250 gain? Now
or upon sale.

Can a company issue bonds that can be purchased with
existing stock. If so, how is that taxed?

I ask this because I know that stock for bonds does not
appear to be a like-kind exchange.

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