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| ruben wrote: - quote - > So there is no way to recharacterize the 2004 deposit to
Sorry, the recharacterization 'window' closes six months> 2005? My earnings, as luck would have it, were quite high > on my IRA in 2004, 2005, the tax hit on the earnings would > be much more than the penalty. after the filing date for that year. For 2004 contributions, that was October 15, 2005. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| So there is no way to recharacterize the 2004 deposit to 2005? My earnings, as luck would have it, were quite high on my IRA in 2004, 2005, the tax hit on the earnings would be much more than the penalty. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > (Didn't your tax guy or tax software catch that,
I used TaxAct and it did give a yellow light on it (should> and give you an error message?) have flashed red lights, IMO). But I understood the $0 it was indicating was how much my contribution was to be reduced, not what it should be. I was not reading closely. Happens. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| ruben wrote: - quote - > In both 2004 and 2005, our MAGI exceeded $160,000. We file
As I understand the rules, you have until the tax due date> married- joint return. In 2004 we deposited $6000 ($3000x2) > into our existing Roth IRAs, and $8000 ($4000x2) in 2005. I > have since discovered that we were not eligible to do this. > We were eligible for Traditional IRA contributions, though. > What is the best approach (minimal penalties) to correct > this error? plus extension time to recharacterize an IRA transaction. So the 2004 deposit passed its deadline of 4/15/05 (plus any extension), but the 2005 deposit should be addressed and changed to a regular IRA immediately. I recall that in 1999, the IRS allowed an extension to 12/31/99 for 1998 deposits, but that was a one time only deal to handle all the confusion. And you are still beyond one year on the 2004 deposit. (Didn't your tax guy or tax software catch that, and give you an error message?) I hope someone can find a ruling to the contrary for you. JOE << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "ruben" <rubenz1967[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > In both 2004 and 2005, our MAGI exceeded $160,000. We file
2004: You owe a $360 penalty for the 2004 overcontribution,> married- joint return. In 2004 we deposited $6000 ($3000x2) > into our existing Roth IRAs, and $8000 ($4000x2) in 2005. I > have since discovered that we were not eligible to do this. > We were eligible for Traditional IRA contributions, though. > What is the best approach (minimal penalties) to correct > this error? and there's nothing you can do to change that. Nor can you change to traditional. To avoid an additional $360 penalty get the 2004 contributions and the earnings on them out of your IRAs by 4/17/2005. You'll owe tax and the 10% premature distribution penalty on the earnings, if they were positive. 2005: You can either withdraw your contributions and the earnings on them or "recharacterize" them as traditional IRA transactions. IRS Publication 590 has the details, and your custodian can walk you through either process. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| In both 2004 and 2005, our MAGI exceeded $160,000. We file married- joint return. In 2004 we deposited $6000 ($3000x2) into our existing Roth IRAs, and $8000 ($4000x2) in 2005. I have since discovered that we were not eligible to do this. We were eligible for Traditional IRA contributions, though. What is the best approach (minimal penalties) to correct this error? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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