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Probably. Wait and see how the broker reports it on the> fund that I was hoping someone could help me with. I > purchased a mutual fund a few years back and intended to > sell all the shares of the mutual fund on a Friday. As it > turns out, the sale date also happened to be a dividend > distribution date. As such, all the shares were sold as > directed and then on Saturday, the account had a fractional > share worth approx $10. Talking to the broker, they > recommended that I sell those fractional shares on the > following Monday at no cost to me. > My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would > they be considered two separate transactions? 1099-B that they send you. However it appears on the 1099-B, that's how you report it on your tax return. - quote - > Would the sale of the fractional share be listed as a short term
Yes. However, depending on when previous distributions were> sale and the sale of the bulk of the mutual fund as a long term > sale? paid, it's possible that not all of the shares you sold on Friday are long-term. There may have been some shares that were purchased with reinvested dividends less than a year before the sale. If that's the case, you will have to split the Friday sale and report it in two pieces, the long-term part and the short-term part (which would still be separate from the fractional share you sold on Monday). The broker may send you a statement showing the breakdown between long-term and short-term. - quote - > Am I going to run into any wash sale rules?
No.- quote - > Can I still use the mutual fund average cost techniques for the
Yes. And if you do, then you must also use average basis for> sale of the bulk of the mutual fund? the fractional share. However, you said: - quote - > This is my first mutual fund sale
If you never sold any shares of this fund before, and you![]() sold all the shares you owned in (essentially) one transaction, there isn't going to be any significant difference between average basis and actual cost. If it weren't for the fractional share there would be no difference at all. Bob Sandler << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "nickname" <jhmiller001[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I had a question about a dividend reinvestment for a mutual
Almost. Since you apparently were automatically reinvesting> fund that I was hoping someone could help me with. I > purchased a mutual fund a few years back and intended to > sell all the shares of the mutual fund on a Friday. As it > turns out, the sale date also happened to be a dividend > distribution date. As such, all the shares were sold as > directed and then on Saturday, the account had a fractional > share worth approx $10. Talking to the broker, they > recommended that I sell those fractional shares on the > following Monday at no cost to me. > My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would > they be considered two separate transactions? Would the > sale of the fractional share be listed as a short term sale > and the sale of the bulk of the mutual fund as a long term > sale? Am I going to run into any wash sale rules? Can I > still use the mutual fund average cost techniques for the > sale of the bulk of the mutual fund? Any help would be much > appreciated. This is my first mutual fund sale ![]() your dividends, you will have to check if there were any other reinvested distributions within one year of your Friday sale date. Any shares purchased one year or less before the sale date would generate a short-term gain (or loss). Those shares purchased more than one year before the Friday sale date would generate long-term gain/loss. The Monday sale of the fractional share will generate a second (or third) sale transaction (short-term). Ira Smilovitz << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "nickname" <jhmiller001[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I had a question about a dividend reinvestment for a mutual
Yes.> fund that I was hoping someone could help me with. I > purchased a mutual fund a few years back and intended to > sell all the shares of the mutual fund on a Friday. As it > turns out, the sale date also happened to be a dividend > distribution date. As such, all the shares were sold as > directed and then on Saturday, the account had a fractional > share worth approx $10. Talking to the broker, they > recommended that I sell those fractional shares on the > following Monday at no cost to me. > My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would > they be considered two separate transactions? Would the > sale of the fractional share be listed as a short term sale - quote - > and the sale of the bulk of the mutual fund as a long term
It could be a combination of both, depending on when yourprevious reinvested distributions were. Any shares that were purchased using disitributions in the year leading up to your sale would be sold short-term. All the original shares and older reinvested shares are long-term. If you haven't had any reinvested distributions in the previous year then they would all be long-term. - quote - > sale? Am I going to run into any wash sale rules? Can I
Wash sale rules only apply if you sell at a loss. Also, ifyou completely dispose of all shares within the same tax year, there's no tax implication of the wash sale rules (the disallowed loss is added to the cost basis of remaining shares, and when you sell them it cancels out). - quote - > still use the mutual fund average cost techniques for the
Yes, you can still use the average cost method of cost basis> sale of the bulk of the mutual fund? Any help would be much > appreciated. This is my first mutual fund sale ![]() determination. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "nickname" <jhmiller001[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > I had a question about a dividend reinvestment for a mutual
Yes, most likely.> fund that I was hoping someone could help me with. I > purchased a mutual fund a few years back and intended to > sell all the shares of the mutual fund on a Friday. As it > turns out, the sale date also happened to be a dividend > distribution date. As such, all the shares were sold as > directed and then on Saturday, the account had a fractional > share worth approx $10. Talking to the broker, they > recommended that I sell those fractional shares on the > following Monday at no cost to me. > My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would > they be considered two separate transactions? - quote - > Would the sale of the fractional share be listed as a short
Yes.> term sale - quote - > and the sale of the bulk of the mutual fund as a long term
There may be some portion of the mutual fund (sold on> sale? Friday) that contains short term investments. - quote - > Am I going to run into any wash sale rules?
Not if you are out of that fund as of the end of the year -and for 30 days after that. - quote - > Can I still use the mutual fund average cost techniques for the
I probably would use the numbers provided by the fund for> sale of the bulk of the mutual fund? cost basis, unless you believe them to be wrong. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would
The safest way to minimize audits is to put a transaction> they be considered two separate transactions? line on schedule D for every line on your 1099(s). So if they report two transactions, you enter two transactions. Federal and state tax agencies try to match 1099s to schedule Ds. Also it is likely your 1099 form will break out the categories for long term, wash, gains, dividends etc. The two most popular tax programs seamlessly convert these 1099s into schedule Ds. Its well worth the $0-$20 for one of these programs just get schedule D right. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would
The safest way to minimize audits is to put a transaction> they be considered two separate transactions? line on schedule D for every line on your 1099(s). So if they report two transactions, you enter two transactions. Federal and state tax agencies try to match 1099s to schedule Ds. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I had a question about a dividend reinvestment for a mutual fund that I was hoping someone could help me with. I purchased a mutual fund a few years back and intended to sell all the shares of the mutual fund on a Friday. As it turns out, the sale date also happened to be a dividend distribution date. As such, all the shares were sold as directed and then on Saturday, the account had a fractional share worth approx $10. Talking to the broker, they recommended that I sell those fractional shares on the following Monday at no cost to me. My question is how to report this on my income taxes? Would they be considered two separate transactions? Would the sale of the fractional share be listed as a short term sale and the sale of the bulk of the mutual fund as a long term sale? Am I going to run into any wash sale rules? Can I still use the mutual fund average cost techniques for the sale of the bulk of the mutual fund? Any help would be much appreciated. This is my first mutual fund sale ![]() Thanks! << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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