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| Folks, unless the person leaving the ring had the requisite indicia of benevolent intent towards the person who owned the car the ring was put into, it's more likely to be treated as "treasure trove" and thus as taxable income to the finder. See, e.g., Treas. Reg. 1.61-14(a). That being said, at least one commentator has pointed out that the IRS has never tried to enforce this regulation upon the finder until the treasure trove is later sold - in which case they require inclusion of the full amount realized as gross income (no basis). See Richard C.E. Beck, "Cancellation of Debt and Other Incidental Items of Income: Puritan Tax Rules in the U.S." (http://www.nyls.edu/pdfs/Vol49no2p695-716.pdf). So, the finder either has (a) gross income of $15,000 includible in the year of finding, or (b) gross income equal to the amount realized in the year of sale. What s/he most likely does not have is a gift. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "NadCixelsyd" <nadcixelsyd[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Here's a headline ... "WESTBOROUGH, Mass. - An anonymous
Yes> gift-giver, apparently depressed over a lost love, left a > $15,000 diamond engagement ring in somebody's else's > unlocked car in a commuter parking lot." > Does the $4000 excess come out of the unified credit for the > donor? - quote - > Do you think he'll file the paperwork?
No.-- To email me directly, remove CLUTTER. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "NadCixelsyd" wrote: - quote - > Here's a headline ... "WESTBOROUGH, Mass. -
The correct answer is no, because the fair market value of> An anonymous gift-giver, apparently depressed over > a lost love, left a $15,000 diamond engagement ring in > somebody's else's unlocked car in a commuter parking lot." > Does the $4000 excess come out of the unified credit for the > donor? ...Discuss amongst yourselves... the property is zero in the hands of both donor and donee. I google; you decide. The Boston Globe's online site has an article proposing various theories. One is the donor stole it from a Mafia street boss and better had to get rid of it. Another is that it's cursed. The holder turns into a werewolf each full moon. In either case, the donee must part with it immediately. Place it in another unlocked vehicle. But, impliedly, please, not in the area mass-transit parking lot in Westborough! What's that local joke about? Actually, I googled to see if a valid gift. Rather appears so, as the donor left a pertinent written note on the seat. The Globe quoted its contents, but donee anonymous. I presume in case Vinnie "The Chin" Boombatz is looking for that ring! Fred F. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Here's a headline ... "WESTBOROUGH, Mass. - An anonymous gift-giver, apparently depressed over a lost love, left a $15,000 diamond engagement ring in somebody's else's unlocked car in a commuter parking lot." Does the $4000 excess come out of the unified credit for the donor? Do you think he'll file the paperwork? Discuss amongst yourselves. (Since this is a tax forum, let's not talk about how crazy the donor was... That's a given) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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