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| Pedro wrote: - quote - > Earlier this year, I had my pension plan from a former
The line "However, the 1-year waiting period does not> employer rolled over into an IRA. I now wish to take > advantage of my low income status by converting that IRA > into a Roth IRA, however I'm concerned about the 1-year > waiting period. > From Pub. 590 (because I don't understand the actual tax code): > "Generally, if you make a tax-free rollover of any part of a > distribution from a traditional IRA, you cannot, within a > 1-year period, make a tax-free rollover of any later > distribution from that same IRA. You also cannot make a > tax-free rollover of any amount distributed, within the same > 1-year period, from the IRA into which you made the tax-free > rollover. The 1-year period begins on the date you receive > the IRA distribution, not on the date you roll it over into > an IRA." > Later, in the section on rollovers from employer plans to > IRAs, I read the following: > "The once-a-year limit on IRA-to-IRA rollovers does not > apply to eligible rollover distributions from an employer > plan. You can roll over more than one distribution from the > same employer plan within a year." > Then, in the section on Roth IRAs, I found this: > "You can convert a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA. The > conversion is treated as a rollover, regardless of the > conversion method used. Most of the rules for rollovers, > described in chapter 1 under Rollover From One IRA Into > Another, apply to these rollovers. However, the 1-year > waiting period does not apply." > It's clear that I can make as many withdrawals from my > employer plan and roll them over into an IRA as often as I > wish without being taxed. It seems I can also make as many > traditional-to-Roth IRA conversions as often as I wish. But > I'm confused whether I can rollover the balance of my > employer plan into an IRA, and within that same year convert > the entire IRA into a Roth IRA, while only paying taxes on > the conversion and not on the initial rollover (assuming the > conversion is not prohibited by the 1-year waiting period). > If there is a 1-year waiting period, when does it begin for > a direct rollover? The check was written by my employer at > the beginning of February, and deposited by my IRA custodian > at the end of April. This is slightly more than 60 days, > however the check was not endorsed to me but rather to my > custodian. Is this ok, or will I need to request an > exception from the IRS? apply." is the answer as I understand it. I've heard experts remark that the IRA in between the employee plan and Roth IRA is there for little purpose. It only serves to confuse people. There is no mimimum time it must stay there, I just suspect the broker would like the check to clear before can move the money along. JOE << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Pedro" <pedro[at]noreply.com> wrote: - quote - > Earlier this year, I had my pension plan from a former
Don't be. Neither the rollover from the plan to your> employer rolled over into an IRA. I now wish to take > advantage of my low income status by converting that IRA > into a Roth IRA, however I'm concerned about the 1-year > waiting period. traditional IRA nor a conversion to Roth counts against your once per 12 months rollover limit. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Earlier this year, I had my pension plan from a former employer rolled over into an IRA. I now wish to take advantage of my low income status by converting that IRA into a Roth IRA, however I'm concerned about the 1-year waiting period. From Pub. 590 (because I don't understand the actual tax code): "Generally, if you make a tax-free rollover of any part of a distribution from a traditional IRA, you cannot, within a 1-year period, make a tax-free rollover of any later distribution from that same IRA. You also cannot make a tax-free rollover of any amount distributed, within the same 1-year period, from the IRA into which you made the tax-free rollover. The 1-year period begins on the date you receive the IRA distribution, not on the date you roll it over into an IRA." Later, in the section on rollovers from employer plans to IRAs, I read the following: "The once-a-year limit on IRA-to-IRA rollovers does not apply to eligible rollover distributions from an employer plan. You can roll over more than one distribution from the same employer plan within a year." Then, in the section on Roth IRAs, I found this: "You can convert a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA. The conversion is treated as a rollover, regardless of the conversion method used. Most of the rules for rollovers, described in chapter 1 under Rollover From One IRA Into Another, apply to these rollovers. However, the 1-year waiting period does not apply." It's clear that I can make as many withdrawals from my employer plan and roll them over into an IRA as often as I wish without being taxed. It seems I can also make as many traditional-to-Roth IRA conversions as often as I wish. But I'm confused whether I can rollover the balance of my employer plan into an IRA, and within that same year convert the entire IRA into a Roth IRA, while only paying taxes on the conversion and not on the initial rollover (assuming the conversion is not prohibited by the 1-year waiting period). If there is a 1-year waiting period, when does it begin for a direct rollover? The check was written by my employer at the beginning of February, and deposited by my IRA custodian at the end of April. This is slightly more than 60 days, however the check was not endorsed to me but rather to my custodian. Is this ok, or will I need to request an exception from the IRS? Thanks so much! Pedro << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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