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| Trust me (and Drew), it will be less than $800 <G> ! It's also important to point out that your corporation will be subject to the NC tax WHETHER OR NOT you reincorporate it in NC. It is subject because it is doing business in NC. If it continues to do business in CA, it will continue to be subject to the CA franchise tax (measured by income, presumably zero) and the $800 minimum, regardless of whether it is reincorporated in NC. Corporations (including S corporations) are taxed where they do business, which may or may not be the same as the state where they are incorporated. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Gary Goodman <XgaryXg7X[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > As to the limited liability, incorporating may not work. If
Or a partner.> you are providing personal services (CPA, lawyer, doctor, > yard maintenance, etc.) and you make a mistake, a half- > decent lawyer (insert your own jokes) can make an end run > around the corporate shield. The corporate shield helps if > an *employee* makes the mistake. - quote - > IANAL, but used to have several as clients. One of them
A corporation doesn't protect anyone from the consequences> used to brag about how easy it was to pierce the corporate > veil. of his own negligent conduct. There are also other ways of imposing personal liability. But none of that has anything to do with piercing the corporate veil. - quote - > In all, a lawyer makes money from handling your
There are too many lawyers out there encouraging people to> incorporation, but makes nothing if you decide to go into > business as a sole proprietor. incorporate so they can make a fee, true. And from what I've seen, most of them don't really understand what it takes to get a corporation up and running. I tell people that if you are considering incorporating, a lawyer is the last person you ask if it's a good idea. First ask you accountant. Then ask your insurance agent. And then ask your old uncle Louie, because even he'll probably give you better advice on this point than most lawyers. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| spamtrap[at]lexregia.com says... - quote - > "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
As to the limited liability, incorporating may not work. If> > To take this a step further, my question would be: > > > "What tax benefit does he receive by incorporating in NC > > versus doing business in his name and filing Schedule C?" > That seems to be the eternal question. It used to be that > having a corporation allowed someone to save a lot of taxes > by putting more away in qualified plans. But apparently > that difference has been largely or completely eliminated. > Limiting liability is often touted by lawyers who want to > make a fee. But the fact is that having a good insurance > policy is much more useful and effective for that purpose. > For someone who wants to make charitable contributions and > medical expenses and doesn't have enough other deductions to > make them deductible on their Schedule A might benefit from > a corporation's ability to deduct them. But I'd guess > that's not something that the bulk of people would be able > to take advantage of. you are providing personal services (CPA, lawyer, doctor, yard maintenance, etc.) and you make a mistake, a half- decent lawyer (insert your own jokes) can make an end run around the corporate shield. The corporate shield helps if an *employee* makes the mistake. IANAL, but used to have several as clients. One of them used to brag about how easy it was to pierce the corporate veil. In all, a lawyer makes money from handling your incorporation, but makes nothing if you decide to go into business as a sole proprietor. Gary -- E-mail to the above address is rarely read. If you want to contact me directly, please send an e-mail to: gary at gdgoodman dot com. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| maks71[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Drew Edmundson wrote:
Income is immaterial to the calculation except as it affects> > maks71[at]gmail.com wrote: > > snip > > > Thanks for your reply. What's the minimum tax in NC? > > > [like $800 in CA]. > > For a corporation in NC the minimum franchise tax is $35 and > > the minimum annual report fee is $20. There are exceptions > > (different rates, means of calculation, etc.) for some > > businesses - utilities and such but a small consulting > > business will pay under the regular schedule. The franchise > > tax is based on the higher of corporate equity, 55% of > > assessed property tax value, or net fixed assets plus > > inventories. The rate is $1.50 per $1,000 base. So a > > company with equity of $100,000 pays franchise tax of $150. > > > If you form a NC LLC then elect to be taxed as a corporation > > there is no franchise tax, at the moment. The annual report > > fee is $200. Obviously there is a break-even point. > > > By at the moment I mean that is the law today and I have > > given up on predicting what our legislature will do. > Thanks Drew for detailed answer... One f/wup question, e.g. > I make 100,000 in revenue.. after all eligible expences like > taxes/salary , I leave almost nothing in corp.. What would > be my Franchise Tax... equity. Then it only matters if equity exceeds the two other measures I mentioned. Typically if you leave little or none of the income in a NC Corporation at year end then you will pay either the minimum or on one of the other measures. Drew Edmundson, CPA Cary, NC << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Drew Edmundson wrote: - quote - > aks71[at]gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Drew for detailed answer... One f/wup question, e.g.> snip > > Thanks for your reply. What's the minimum tax in NC? > > [like $800 in CA]. > For a corporation in NC the minimum franchise tax is $35 and > the minimum annual report fee is $20. There are exceptions > (different rates, means of calculation, etc.) for some > businesses - utilities and such but a small consulting > business will pay under the regular schedule. The franchise > tax is based on the higher of corporate equity, 55% of > assessed property tax value, or net fixed assets plus > inventories. The rate is $1.50 per $1,000 base. So a > company with equity of $100,000 pays franchise tax of $150. > If you form a NC LLC then elect to be taxed as a corporation > there is no franchise tax, at the moment. The annual report > fee is $200. Obviously there is a break-even point. > By at the moment I mean that is the law today and I have > given up on predicting what our legislature will do. I make 100,000 in revenue.. after all eligible expences like taxes/salary , I leave almost nothing in corp.. What would be my Franchise Tax... << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| aks71[at]gmail.com wrote: snip - quote - > Thanks for your reply. What's the minimum tax in NC?
For a corporation in NC the minimum franchise tax is $35 and> [like $800 in CA]. the minimum annual report fee is $20. There are exceptions (different rates, means of calculation, etc.) for some businesses - utilities and such but a small consulting business will pay under the regular schedule. The franchise tax is based on the higher of corporate equity, 55% of assessed property tax value, or net fixed assets plus inventories. The rate is $1.50 per $1,000 base. So a company with equity of $100,000 pays franchise tax of $150. If you form a NC LLC then elect to be taxed as a corporation there is no franchise tax, at the moment. The annual report fee is $200. Obviously there is a break-even point. By at the moment I mean that is the law today and I have given up on predicting what our legislature will do. Drew Edmundson, CPA Cary, NC << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > To take this a step further, my question would be:
That seems to be the eternal question. It used to be that> "What tax benefit does he receive by incorporating in NC > versus doing business in his name and filing Schedule C?" having a corporation allowed someone to save a lot of taxes by putting more away in qualified plans. But apparently that difference has been largely or completely eliminated. Limiting liability is often touted by lawyers who want to make a fee. But the fact is that having a good insurance policy is much more useful and effective for that purpose. For someone who wants to make charitable contributions and medical expenses and doesn't have enough other deductions to make them deductible on their Schedule A might benefit from a corporation's ability to deduct them. But I'd guess that's not something that the bulk of people would be able to take advantage of. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Katie wrote: - quote - > maks71[at]gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for your reply. What's the minimum tax in NC?> > I recently moved to NC from CA. I have my CA S-corporation > > for my S/W consultancy business. > > > I got a consulting opportuinity in NC. > > > Should I Continue with CA corporation after getting > > Permission to operate in NC (Certificate of Authority ) or > > Should I form new NC corporation and desolve CA corporation? > > > What's more beneficial from Tax perspective? > If your corporation will still be doing business in CA > (i.e., you'll be doing some of your consulting work in CA), > it makes no difference. If the corporation will no longer > be doing anything in CA, reincorporating in NC will > eliminate the CA filing requirement and the $800 annual > minimum tax. [like $800 in CA]. Moderator: It does not matter what your costs are to live in the Promised Land of North Carolina. It is where God went to rest on the seventh day. Only good things will happen to you when you live there - unless you're a dookie. ![]() << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > If your corporation will still be doing business in CA
To take this a step further, my question would be:> (i.e., you'll be doing some of your consulting work in CA), > it makes no difference. If the corporation will no longer > be doing anything in CA, reincorporating in NC will > eliminate the CA filing requirement and the $800 annual > minimum tax. "What tax benefit does he receive by incorporating in NC versus doing business in his name and filing Schedule C?" -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| maks71[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > I recently moved to NC from CA. I have my CA S-corporation
If your corporation will still be doing business in CA> for my S/W consultancy business. > I got a consulting opportuinity in NC. > Should I Continue with CA corporation after getting > Permission to operate in NC (Certificate of Authority ) or > Should I form new NC corporation and desolve CA corporation? > What's more beneficial from Tax perspective? (i.e., you'll be doing some of your consulting work in CA), it makes no difference. If the corporation will no longer be doing anything in CA, reincorporating in NC will eliminate the CA filing requirement and the $800 annual minimum tax. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I recently moved to NC from CA. I have my CA S-corporation for my S/W consultancy business. I got a consulting opportuinity in NC. Should I Continue with CA corporation after getting Permission to operate in NC (Certificate of Authority ) or Should I form new NC corporation and desolve CA corporation? What's more beneficial from Tax perspective? -Maks Moderator: Once you have been so fortunate to be living in the "Promised Land of North Carolina", it is in your best interest to severe your relationships with inferior jurisdictions. Heaven is a local call in North Carolina. In Chapel Hill, God is a button on the intercom - immediately to the right of Roy Williams. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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