"D.F. Manno" <dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com> wrote:

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Hey! As a transplanted Jayhawk I take umbrage to that. We
may not want no EVILution tot in our schools, but we're not
about to let the state pick our pockets.

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"Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:

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Oh, I don't know. He could live in Kansas.

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Phil Marti wrote:

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And the reason for that could be that the restaurant is owned by one
person who leases out the bar to another. One possibility.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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"Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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I went to see a dinner show in Vegas. They not only charged
sales tax on the entire cost of the show and dinner, but
imposed an entertainment tax as well on the same amount.

Stu

Moderator:
The last time I was in Vegas the sales tax at stores on the
strip was at least double the sales tax at stores near UNLV.

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"Brian Coddington" <bpcoddington[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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The difference is when you don't work in round numbers the
tax is either rounded up to down to the next penny. So it
is possible that when three items are ordered the total bill
can be about two cents higher when taxed separately than
when taxed together.

Stu

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"Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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They may have changed it by now, but when I used to live and
shop in DC, a six pack of Coke carried no sales tax, but a
pie from the bakery section a 10% sales tax on "prepared
food." Ditto for a Coke dispensed from a fountain. There
was also a time when candy bars and snacks had a special tax
rate.

I've seen lots of places where a bar portion of the tab in a restaurant
carries its own tax calculation.

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ALL of us former college instructor types do.

Happy Thank$giving to y'all.

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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julca wrote:

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First, you are talking about SALES tax, not INCOME tax, and
that is controlled by your state statutes. I live in a
sales-tax state and cannot imagine a situation (except in
error) where you would pay sales tax more than once on a
given transaction. Perhaps you are merely misreading your
receipt.

In addition, I cannot believe that the mass of citizens in
your state would be gullible or dense enough to put up with
such double or triple taxation on a regular basis.

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julca wrote:

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My guess is that the State Sales Tax people (who are so
malacious that other auditors won't associate with them)
projected the revenue on which they were supposed to be
taxed. So now they split out the taxes by department so
the Sales Tax gang cannot estimate "the average meal".

An interesting thought: Slender women and men drink regular
soda and eat dessert while the chronically obese drink diet
soda and skip dessert. Harlan, please note that I made no
association between you and either group. And Gene, no
association was necessary.

And a happy long weekend to all of my friends.

Dick

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Julca said:

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I would assume meal = food and beverage = drink and dessert
= after food, ie, they split up the total "meal" into three
categories, and tax each one separately, so no, noone is
getting double taxed.

They probably do this as the tax rates and/or the
responsible wait-staff at each segment may be different.
However, assuming the tax rate is the same for all of these
categories (meal, beverage, desert), you can see through
mathematical distributive property that

meal*Tax + beverage*Tax + desert*Tax = (meal + beverage + desert) * Tax

best
Chad

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No. Let's try an example. I'll use my local sales tax rate
in the example.

Meal = $100
Beverage = $50
Dessert = $20

With Sales Tax:
Meal = $100 * 1.0825 = $108.25
Beverage = $50 * 1.0825 = $ 54.13
Dessert = $20 * 1.0825 = $21.65
Total: $184.03

If you remember your basic high school algebra, you'll find
that you can factor out the separately charged sales tax and
you'll get the same answer.

(Meal X SalesTax) + (Beverage X SalesTax) + (Dessert X SalesTax) =
(Meal + Beverage + Dessert) X SalesTax

($100 + $50 + $20) * 1.0825 = $184.03

/brian

P.S. My local sales tax rate is 8.25%.
For the mathematically disinclined, 8.25% = 0.0825.
Thus, $100 + ($100 * 0.0825) =
$100 * (1 + 0.0825) =
$100 * 1.0825 = $108.25.
You can learn more about this basic mathematical operation at:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Distributive.html

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"julca" <jostensland[at]aol.com> wrote

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With minor exceptions for rounding, what's the difference in
your above scenario and adding the total meal charges and
applying the tax rate?

One valid reason may be differing tax rates. I can see it
on say, a bar total, but it's hard to believe that any
jurisdiction has varying rates for Cokes and pie.

Then again, it may just be some function of the accounting
system devised by the owner.

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"julca" <jostensland[at]aol.com> wrote:

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I'll cut him a lot of slack if the hot food is hot and the
cold food cold and I don't get the eggplant surprise.

Everytime I hear another promotion for the easy as pie
national sales tax I'm reminded of how incredibly
complicated state and local sales tax is. All of this is
determined by state and local law, and whether the waiter is
doing it right or not, you can be sure he can't explain it
to you.

To find out if he's doing it the right way, contact your
sales tax officials, preferably with a copy of the check.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Is it correct for a waiter to tax three times on the same
check.
Example: Meal totaled with tax.
Beverage totaled with tax.
Dessert totaled with tax.

If you do this all the time, won't your customers on the
whole be over taxed?

Julca

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