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| Kathleen Bell <orbellfamily[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > "Steve Pope" <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote:
My approach is I keep a record of any business expense,> > I find this discussion interesting. I operate a sole > > proprietorship, as does my wife, and neither of us has a > > business checking account. I do not see how this means that > > business and personal funds are being "comingled". > > Business revenues and expenses are recorded as they occur. > > We've been doing it this way in excess of ten years. > > > I don't even see where there are "funds" associated with > > operating either business. Can someone define what > > "business funds" means with respect to a sole proprietor? > > Moderator: > > Sole Proprietors may comingle without fear of the IRS. > > But it is still frowned upon. > There is also a practical problem. If you pay a bill, > say,to the power company, when you get to recording, it can > you get confused as to whether it is for your home or your > office? whether it be paid by check, credit card, or cash. If no record of this sort exists, then it was not a business expense. I then at tax time take these records (I've created a form for this purpose) and "code" them -- i.e., determine which line of Schedule C they go on. Dunno if this is sufficient; I have not had my business audited, but at least I'd have some paperwork backing it up. Steve << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Steve Pope" <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote: - quote - > Joe Btfsplk <taxxcpa[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
There is also a practical problem. If you pay a bill,> > "Mark H" <gcollect1[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > you should definitely maintain a separate checking account > > > for business purposes rather than comingling your business > > > receipts and disbursements with your personal. it's a > > > simple matter to issue a check to yourself on a schedule or > > > as needed to fund your personal account, however, having > > > business and personal accounts comingled is asking for > > > trouble. > > I commingle my personal and business checking account. When > > I enter them on my books I distinguish the personal expenses > > by recording them as personal withdrawals. > > > There is no need for separate accounts if you keep adequate > > records. > I agree. > > Moderator: > > The IRS has taken the position that business funds > > commingled with personal funds is personal income. > I find this discussion interesting. I operate a sole > proprietorship, as does my wife, and neither of us has a > business checking account. I do not see how this means that > business and personal funds are being "comingled". > Business revenues and expenses are recorded as they occur. > We've been doing it this way in excess of ten years. > I don't even see where there are "funds" associated with > operating either business. Can someone define what > "business funds" means with respect to a sole proprietor? > Steve > Moderator: > Sole Proprietors may comingle without fear of the IRS. > But it is still frowned upon. say,to the power company, when you get to recording, it can you get confused as to whether it is for your home or your office? If you are completely organized at all times, it may not be a problem, but around March 30 things may get half done to be completed later. When everything is caught up, it takes a little more to strighten it all out. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Joe Btfsplk <taxxcpa[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > "Mark H" <gcollect1[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I agree.> > you should definitely maintain a separate checking account > > for business purposes rather than comingling your business > > receipts and disbursements with your personal. it's a > > simple matter to issue a check to yourself on a schedule or > > as needed to fund your personal account, however, having > > business and personal accounts comingled is asking for > > trouble. > I commingle my personal and business checking account. When > I enter them on my books I distinguish the personal expenses > by recording them as personal withdrawals. > There is no need for separate accounts if you keep adequate > records. - quote - > Moderator:
I find this discussion interesting. I operate a sole> The IRS has taken the position that business funds > commingled with personal funds is personal income. proprietorship, as does my wife, and neither of us has a business checking account. I do not see how this means that business and personal funds are being "comingled". Business revenues and expenses are recorded as they occur. We've been doing it this way in excess of ten years. I don't even see where there are "funds" associated with operating either business. Can someone define what "business funds" means with respect to a sole proprietor? Steve Moderator: Sole Proprietors may comingle without fear of the IRS. But it is still frowned upon. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Since a business credit card that includes charges for anything personal, ALL interest on balances over 30 days immediately becomes personal interest and no longer deductible as a business expense, so its better to not to comingle those charges either. Denise << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > Moderator:
A somewhat related question.... A Sole Prop keeps their> The IRS has taken the position that business funds > commingled with personal funds is personal income. business checking account separate from their personal checking account. However, Sole Prop. has a credit card in the business name where mainly business purchases are made, but sometime personal purchases are made. The personal purchases are recorded as a draw. Are there any problems with this? Thanks. Josh << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Joe Btfsplk <taxxcpa[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > There is no need for separate accounts if you keep adequate
For a sole proprietor, what is the difference?> records. > Moderator: > The IRS has taken the position that business funds > commingled with personal funds is personal income. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Mark H" <gcollect1[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > "TaxProblems" <beauchamp.jim[at]gmail.com> wrote:
I commingle my personal and business checking account. When> > I've been self-employed since 1998. I just use social > > security id when paying quarterly taxes. Since I got > > married, I've not been able to keep up on quarterly tax > > payments (you understand). > > > Basically, I work from home. One room in our home is > > dedicated to my home office (10%) of the total square > > footage of our home. I've used H&R block since 1998 and the > > guy seems to get me all the right deductions (mortgage, > > office supplies, computers, gas, electric, etc) > > > My wife works about 100 hours a year for me doing the books > > etc. I don't pay her since all my checks go into our > > personal checking account (clients just make out checks to > > me). > you should definitely maintain a separate checking account > for business purposes rather than comingling your business > receipts and disbursements with your personal. it's a > simple matter to issue a check to yourself on a schedule or > as needed to fund your personal account, however, having > business and personal accounts comingled is asking for > trouble. > > Since we file jointly and just itemize deductions out on a > > schedule C, are there any other things I can deduct. I saw > > a schedule somewhere on the Internet about the federal > > government allowing people to deduct like $1.00 for > > breakfast, $1.25 for lunch and a $1.50 for dinner. Would > > that apply to me since I'm home and working all the time? > > All my clients are outside my state? > Lots of rules about deductibility of meals. Were these meals > w/ clients discussing business? Do you have receipts? Were > you traveling away from home (defined as overnight) for > business purposes? No? Then you'll be hard-pressed to > justify as a business expense. > I'm a honest guy, never been audited, just looking for ways > to cut down my taxes since I've only been able to pay about > 15% of the total value of taxes owed. I enter them on my books I distinguish the personal expenses by recording them as personal withdrawals. There is no need for separate accounts if you keep adequate records. I also work at home. I record my utility bills and other expenses allocable to the home office in separate accounts and take the portion attributable to my office on my tax return along with the concomittant depreciation. Moderator: The IRS has taken the position that business funds commingled with personal funds is personal income. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "TaxProblems" <beauchamp.jim[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I've been self-employed since 1998. I just use social
you should definitely maintain a separate checking account> security id when paying quarterly taxes. Since I got > married, I've not been able to keep up on quarterly tax > payments (you understand). > Basically, I work from home. One room in our home is > dedicated to my home office (10%) of the total square > footage of our home. I've used H&R block since 1998 and the > guy seems to get me all the right deductions (mortgage, > office supplies, computers, gas, electric, etc) > My wife works about 100 hours a year for me doing the books > etc. I don't pay her since all my checks go into our > personal checking account (clients just make out checks to > me). for business purposes rather than comingling your business receipts and disbursements with your personal. it's a simple matter to issue a check to yourself on a schedule or as needed to fund your personal account, however, having business and personal accounts comingled is asking for trouble. - quote - > Since we file jointly and just itemize deductions out on a
Lots of rules about deductibility of meals. Were these meals> schedule C, are there any other things I can deduct. I saw > a schedule somewhere on the Internet about the federal > government allowing people to deduct like $1.00 for > breakfast, $1.25 for lunch and a $1.50 for dinner. Would > that apply to me since I'm home and working all the time? > All my clients are outside my state? w/ clients discussing business? Do you have receipts? Were you traveling away from home (defined as overnight) for business purposes? No? Then you'll be hard-pressed to justify as a business expense. I'm a honest guy, never been audited, just looking for ways to cut down my taxes since I've only been able to pay about 15% of the total value of taxes owed. Regards, Jim << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "TaxProblems" <beauchamp.jim[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I've been self-employed since 1998. I just use social
What I understand is that you're not treating taxes as a> security id when paying quarterly taxes. Since I got > married, I've not been able to keep up on quarterly tax > payments (you understand). necessary expense the same way you treat mortgage payments and utilities. THAT's what you need to address, not some way to trump up deductions. (No, you can't deduct meals because you work at home.) -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I've been self-employed since 1998. I just use social security id when paying quarterly taxes. Since I got married, I've not been able to keep up on quarterly tax payments (you understand). Basically, I work from home. One room in our home is dedicated to my home office (10%) of the total square footage of our home. I've used H&R block since 1998 and the guy seems to get me all the right deductions (mortgage, office supplies, computers, gas, electric, etc) My wife works about 100 hours a year for me doing the books etc. I don't pay her since all my checks go into our personal checking account (clients just make out checks to me). Since we file jointly and just itemize deductions out on a schedule C, are there any other things I can deduct. I saw a schedule somewhere on the Internet about the federal government allowing people to deduct like $1.00 for breakfast, $1.25 for lunch and a $1.50 for dinner. Would that apply to me since I'm home and working all the time? All my clients are outside my state? I'm a honest guy, never been audited, just looking for ways to cut down my taxes since I've only been able to pay about 15% of the total value of taxes owed. Regards, Jim << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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