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| Basically, commuting expenses are not deductible because Congress decided in 1913 that they should not be. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| There are 535 people (many of whom are incapable of gainful employment) who have seats in the House and the Senate. They have established the primary rule for income tax deductions. It's a simple rule. If it does not specifically state in the Internal Revenue Code (IRC) that something is deductible, it is not deductible. This is one of the few logical concepts in the IRC! Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Thomas Homilius <Thomas.Homilius[at]Wirtschaft.TU-Chemnitz.DE> wrote: - quote - > I have found 2 IRS publication related to that issue
You won't find anything in the IRC that explains why> (Commuting Expenses). > <http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc514.html> "Topic 514 - Employee Business Expenses > If you are an employee, you may be able to deduct your > work?related expenses as an itemized deduction (subject to > limitations) on Schedule A, Form 1040 (PDF). These employee > business expenses include the cost of business travel away > from home, local transportation, entertainment, gifts, and > other ordinary and necessary expenses related to your job." > <http://www.irs.gov/publications/p529/ar02.html> "Commuting Expenses > You cannot deduct commuting expenses (the cost of > transportation between your home and your main or regular > place of work). If you haul tools, instruments, or other > items in your car to and from work, you can deduct only the > additional cost of hauling the items, such as the rent on a > trailer to carry the items." > In my mind "Commuting Expenses" are "work?related expenses". > Why does the I.R.S. say: "You cannot deduct commuting > expenses"? I cannot find the suitable or proper Section in > IRC, can anyone help me? I try to realize the IRS opinion. commuting expenses are not deductible. The code isn't written that way; it is written to say what IS deductible. Unless the IRS specifically alows an expense it is not deductible. Thus, since the IRC does define deductible travel expense, such expenses are deductible. Among other requirements, travel expenses must be for a journey that is long enough to require a period of rest before your return. IRS and the courts have generally interpreted this to mean that you must be away overnght. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Thomas Homilius wrote: - quote - > I have found 2 IRS publication related to that issue
Treasury regulation 1.162-2(e) and 1.162-1(b)(5)> (Commuting Expenses). > <http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc514.html> "Topic 514 - Employee Business Expenses > If you are an employee, you may be able to deduct your > work?related expenses as an itemized deduction (subject to > limitations) on Schedule A, Form 1040 (PDF). These employee > business expenses include the cost of business travel away > from home, local transportation, entertainment, gifts, and > other ordinary and necessary expenses related to your job." > <http://www.irs.gov/publications/p529/ar02.html> "Commuting Expenses > You cannot deduct commuting expenses (the cost of > transportation between your home and your main or regular > place of work). If you haul tools, instruments, or other > items in your car to and from work, you can deduct only the > additional cost of hauling the items, such as the rent on a > trailer to carry the items." > In my mind "Commuting Expenses" are "work?related expenses". > Why does the I.R.S. say: "You cannot deduct commuting > expenses"? I cannot find the suitable or proper Section in > IRC, can anyone help me? I try to realize the IRS opinion. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Thomas Homilius" wrote: - quote - > In my mind "Commuting Expenses" are "work?related expenses".
The correct statutory citation is section 262(a), where> Why does the I.R.S. say: "You cannot deduct commuting > expenses"? I cannot find the suitable or proper Section in > IRC, can anyone help me? I try to realize the IRS opinion. personal living expenses are not deductible. This is so basic to tax law, I don't think anyone has ever challenged "driving to work" on new theory as somehow deductible in Tax Court, and thence on appeal following the inevitable decision. Think Don Quixote and windmills on this one: "Look there, friend Sancho Panza, where thirty or more monstrous giants rise up, all of whom I mean to engage in battle and slay...." Cervantes, c.1605 Fred F. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Short answer: Because the IRS says they're non-deductible. Longer answer: Would have to delve into the wheres and whys of the tax code. Basically, though, commuting from home to work is not considered deductible. If you commute from home to office, and then to a job site for work, the mileage from office to job site is deductible. As is mileage to any subsequent job site that day. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I have found 2 IRS publication related to that issue (Commuting Expenses). <http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc514.html"Topic 514 - Employee Business Expenses If you are an employee, you may be able to deduct your work?related expenses as an itemized deduction (subject to limitations) on Schedule A, Form 1040 (PDF). These employee business expenses include the cost of business travel away from home, local transportation, entertainment, gifts, and other ordinary and necessary expenses related to your job." <http://www.irs.gov/publications/p529/ar02.html"Commuting Expenses You cannot deduct commuting expenses (the cost of transportation between your home and your main or regular place of work). If you haul tools, instruments, or other items in your car to and from work, you can deduct only the additional cost of hauling the items, such as the rent on a trailer to carry the items." In my mind "Commuting Expenses" are "work?related expenses". Why does the I.R.S. say: "You cannot deduct commuting expenses"? I cannot find the suitable or proper Section in IRC, can anyone help me? I try to realize the IRS opinion. Thomas Homilius << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Thomas Homilius" <Thomas.Homilius[at]Wirtschaft.TU-Chemnitz.DE> wrote - quote - > Why are daily transportation (car) expenses between the
Why? Because Congress decided that how far (or close) to> taxpayer's residence and his work location nondeductible > commuting expenses? your business you decide to live is a personal choice, and not a business decision. Stated another way, there is not business purpose for you to live as far from your business as you do. - quote - > I mean deductible like a business expense. I am
§1.162-2. Traveling expenses> looking for the law or section in Title 26 of > the United States Code. (a) Traveling expenses include travel fares, meals and lodging, and expenses incident to travel such as expenses for sample rooms, telephone and telegraph, public stenographers, etc. Only such traveling expenses as are reasonable and necessary in the conduct of the taxpayer's business and directly attributable to it may be deducted. If the trip is undertaken for other than business purposes, the travel fares and expenses incident to travel are personal expenses and the meals and lodging are living expenses. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Thomas Homilius" wrote: - quote - > Why are daily transportation (car) expenses between the
Because where you live and how you get to work are> taxpayer's residence and his work location nondeductible > commuting expenses? I mean deductible like a business > expense. I am looking for the law or section in Title 26 of > the United States Code. considered personal choices and not for business purposes. - quote - > My Question: http://www.taxlinks.com/rulings/1990/revrul90-23.htm> Where can I find the IRS Rev Rul 90-23, 94-47 or later rules? http://www.taxlinks.com/rulings/1994/revrul94-47.htm - quote - > Rules are Interprations of "Title 26 of the United States
You mean Revenue Rulings? Sometimes they're> Code" by IRS, is that true? interpretations, other times they're extrapolations. - quote - > Are Rules the same like CFR?
No. CFR is where treasury regulations reside. Regulationsare created to implement the tax code. To the extent the regulations do not conflict with the code, they have the force of law. Revenue rulings are not much more than the opinion of someone at the IRS. The courts look at them, but are not as deferential to them as to the regulations. - quote - > What Sections of IRC Code interprate these Rules: IRS Rev
The code doesn't interpret the rules, the rules interpret> Rul 90-23, 94-47 or later? the code. If you look at the revenue ruling, it will tell you exactly which section of the code it is dealing with. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Why are daily transportation (car) expenses between the taxpayer's residence and his work location nondeductible commuting expenses? I mean deductible like a business expense. I am looking for the law or section in Title 26 of the United States Code. I searched at http://groups.google.com and I found the message from William P. Brown in <news:RX064.13403$W2.47617[at]iad-read.news.verio.net> Date: 1999-12-16. My Question: Where can I find the IRS Rev Rul 90-23, 94-47 or later rules? Rules are Interprations of "Title 26 of the United States Code" by IRS, is that true? Are Rules the same like CFR? <http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=98137,00.html"Treasury regulations (26 C.F.R.)--commonly referred to as Federal tax regulations-- pick up where the Internal Revenue Code (IRC) leaves off by providing the official interpretation of the IRC by the U.S. Department of Treasury." What Sections of IRC Code interprate these Rules: IRS Rev Rul 90-23, 94-47 or later? Thomas Homilius (Sorry for the bad english) << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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