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| "Paul A. Thomas" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > <JanZtax[at]aol.com> wrote
Here are my thoughts.> > Hi all. I actually "re-found" you quite by accident but am > > glad to see all the "old" names are still participating in > > this group and that Dick still has the energy and time to > > moderate it. And, I even have a question to ask! > > > Client does art work for the New Yorker and a number of > > other publications. He is a California resident but lives > > part of the year in NY. He does not maintain a household in > > NY while out of the state. All income he receives is > > reported on 1099 forms. In 2005, he opened a PO Box in NY > > and gave that as his address for the New Yorker payment. > > I'm afraid that New York state, seeing the NY address on the > > 1099 will expect him to pay tax on this income as NY State > > sourced. However, he did some of the work while living in > > CA and some while living in NY and the truth is that it > > really doesn't matter where he's physically doing the work > > (none is done in an office). Does NY have a case and are > > they likely to contact him? > It doesn't look good at all. > I believe there was a *very* recent case that involved a > telecommuter who worked in TN(?) for an employer based in > NY. NY taxed him on his full earnings even though he only > went to NY for a few meetings (maybe couple times a month?). > It went up pretty high on the legal food chain and NY > prevailed. > Maybe his best bet is to claim part-year resident or > something. But definitely, a portion of his earnings are NY > sourced. Residency is based on a number of factors (what state is your drivers license in, where do you vote, etc.) so living in NY for part of the year does not necessarily make him a NY resident. The case in TN dealt with an employee. This is not the case here. So what we are dealing with here is does the person have nexus with NY causing taxability? Performing part of his services in NY would cause nexus. Absent any research to the contrary, I believe that a portion of his income is taxable in NY. I would allocate income to NY for projects worked on while he was in NY based on the number of days worked in NY to total number of days works on the project. He should keep records of what projects he worked on and time spent in NY to support this position. Otherwise NY may take his total income times number of days in NY. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <JanZtax[at]aol.com> wrote - quote - > Hi all. I actually "re-found" you quite by accident but am
It doesn't look good at all.> glad to see all the "old" names are still participating in > this group and that Dick still has the energy and time to > moderate it. And, I even have a question to ask! > Client does art work for the New Yorker and a number of > other publications. He is a California resident but lives > part of the year in NY. He does not maintain a household in > NY while out of the state. All income he receives is > reported on 1099 forms. In 2005, he opened a PO Box in NY > and gave that as his address for the New Yorker payment. > I'm afraid that New York state, seeing the NY address on the > 1099 will expect him to pay tax on this income as NY State > sourced. However, he did some of the work while living in > CA and some while living in NY and the truth is that it > really doesn't matter where he's physically doing the work > (none is done in an office). Does NY have a case and are > they likely to contact him? I believe there was a *very* recent case that involved a telecommuter who worked in TN(?) for an employer based in NY. NY taxed him on his full earnings even though he only went to NY for a few meetings (maybe couple times a month?). It went up pretty high on the legal food chain and NY prevailed. Maybe his best bet is to claim part-year resident or something. But definitely, a portion of his earnings are NY sourced. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| The regulation that was at issue in _Huckaby_ applies to employees. "[i]f a nonresident employee ... performs services for his employer both within and without New York State, his income derived from New York State sources includes that proportion of his total compensation for services rendered as an employee which the total number of working days employed within New York State bears to the total number of working days employed both within and without New York State. ... However, any allowance claimed for days worked outside New York State must be based upon the performance of services which of necessity, as distinguished from convenience, obligate the employee to out-of-state duties in the service of his employer" ( 20 NYCRR 132.18 [a]). If Jan's client is an employee of the New Yorker Magazine, then this rule applies to him. If, as I assumed, he is an independent contractor with his own business of creating and selling art work to various publications, it does not. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > Client does art work for the New Yorker and a number of
A recent NY State Supreme Court case, In the Matter of> other publications. He is a California resident but lives > part of the year in NY. He does not maintain a household in > NY while out of the state. All income he receives is > reported on 1099 forms. In 2005, he opened a PO Box in NY > and gave that as his address for the New Yorker payment. > I'm afraid that New York state, seeing the NY address on the > 1099 will expect him to pay tax on this income as NY State > sourced. However, he did some of the work while living in > CA and some while living in NY and the truth is that it > really doesn't matter where he's physically doing the work > (none is done in an office). Does NY have a case and are > they likely to contact him? Thomas L. Huckaby v. New York State Division of Tax Appeals (March 29, 2005), prompted an interesting discussion of this issue on the MSN Tax Corner message board under the topic heading, "telecommuters killed." http://moneycentral.msn.com/communit...oard=TaxCorner In response to your comment about his physical location while performing the services not mattering, the majority of the NY State Supremes came to the same conclusion. Rather than location, they looked to whether the worker was working out of state primarily for his own convenience. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/n...app/8opn05.pdf Frederick Lorca << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| JanZtax[at]aol.com wrote: - quote - > Hi all. I actually "re-found" you quite by accident but am
Hi, Jan, welcome back!> glad to see all the "old" names are still participating in > this group and that Dick still has the energy and time to > moderate it. And, I even have a question to ask! > Client does art work for the New Yorker and a number of > other publications. He is a California resident but lives > part of the year in NY. He does not maintain a household in > NY while out of the state. All income he receives is > reported on 1099 forms. In 2005, he opened a PO Box in NY > and gave that as his address for the New Yorker payment. > I'm afraid that New York state, seeing the NY address on the > 1099 will expect him to pay tax on this income as NY State > sourced. However, he did some of the work while living in > CA and some while living in NY and the truth is that it > really doesn't matter where he's physically doing the work > (none is done in an office). Does NY have a case and are > they likely to contact him? Seems to me the issue here is whether the art work he does is (a) the performance of personal services, (b) the product of his business, or (c) the creation of intangible property. What is the magazine paying him for? Who owns the rights to the art work after he delivers it to the magazine? If the magazine pays him for the original art work, which it then owns, then I think it is either (a) or (b) and in either case, the source of the income is the place where he performed the services or carries on the business (i.e., creates the art work). So some of it may be NY source, and some CA source, based on where he was when he did the work. If he retains title to the art work and merely licenses the magazine to publish it once, which would be (c), then it may be an intangible sourced to his residence. Under the facts you describe, he's a CA resident, and he is not a NY resident (even if he is there more than 180 days, as long as he doesn't maintain a permanent place of abode there). But he may still have some NY source income arising from this activity. The question may indeed arise because of the NY address on the 1099s. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <JanZtax[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Hi all. I actually "re-found" you quite by accident but am
If he is compensated for work that he did while he was> glad to see all the "old" names are still participating in > this group and that Dick still has the energy and time to > moderate it. And, I even have a question to ask! > Client does art work for the New Yorker and a number of > other publications. He is a California resident but lives > part of the year in NY. He does not maintain a household in > NY while out of the state. All income he receives is > reported on 1099 forms. In 2005, he opened a PO Box in NY > and gave that as his address for the New Yorker payment. > I'm afraid that New York state, seeing the NY address on the > 1099 will expect him to pay tax on this income as NY State > sourced. However, he did some of the work while living in > CA and some while living in NY and the truth is that it > really doesn't matter where he's physically doing the work > (none is done in an office). Does NY have a case and are > they likely to contact him? physically present in NY, then that income is NY source and taxable by NY state (and City if the work was done in NYC). If he did work for New Yorker while he was physically in CA or some other state, than that income will be sourced to the location where he was physically located when he performed the services, an exeption to this exists where he was in a non-taxing jurisdication (e.g., Nevada) or if he did work in-flight on a plane or some similar 'non-taxable location'. In these instances, his income will be sourced to his "home state", which is where is primary residence is. The P.O. Box in NY does give his nexus there as would maintaining an apartment. If he traveled there frequently and did not maintain a residence but only stayed in hotels, he would still be taxable to the extent he provided services while in NY. On the plus side, taxes he pays on income in NY will generally be creditable against his home-state liability. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Hi all. I actually "re-found" you quite by accident but am glad to see all the "old" names are still participating in this group and that Dick still has the energy and time to moderate it. And, I even have a question to ask! Client does art work for the New Yorker and a number of other publications. He is a California resident but lives part of the year in NY. He does not maintain a household in NY while out of the state. All income he receives is reported on 1099 forms. In 2005, he opened a PO Box in NY and gave that as his address for the New Yorker payment. I'm afraid that New York state, seeing the NY address on the 1099 will expect him to pay tax on this income as NY State sourced. However, he did some of the work while living in CA and some while living in NY and the truth is that it really doesn't matter where he's physically doing the work (none is done in an office). Does NY have a case and are they likely to contact him? Jan Zobel EA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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