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| Thanks for the info! I should have read Pub 590 but did not realize the IRS had a pub specifically for IRA's..... << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DSF" <df190765[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the
You're supposed to withdraw the excess contributions.> IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you > have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus > maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in > December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property > (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts > you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. > According to the IRS the Roth IRA phase out says: > "...The amount you may contribute to a Roth IRA is gradually > reduced if your modified adjusted gross income is between > $95,000 and $110,000 (between $150,000 and $160,000 if you > are married and file a joint return, and between $0 and > $10,000 if you are married, lived with your spouse and file > a separate return)...." > So what happens now? The IRA trustee will send the IRS info > about your contributions and then the IRS could/will see > that your MAGI will be at or above the phase out limits. Do > you have to withdraw the excess contribution(s) before April > 15th of next year? I guess maybe the other option is to > just take a penalty if it is not too great a hit on your > investment returns. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DSF" <df190765[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the
Yes.> IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you > have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus > maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in > December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property > (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts > you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. > According to the IRS the Roth IRA phase out says: > "...The amount you may contribute to a Roth IRA is gradually > reduced if your modified adjusted gross income is between > $95,000 and $110,000 (between $150,000 and $160,000 if you > are married and file a joint return, and between $0 and > $10,000 if you are married, lived with your spouse and file > a separate return)...." > So what happens now? The IRA trustee will send the IRS info > about your contributions and then the IRS could/will see > that your MAGI will be at or above the phase out limits. Do > you have to withdraw the excess contribution(s) before April > 15th of next year? - quote - > I guess maybe the other option is to
It isn't a one time penalty. It's a recurring penalty until> just take a penalty if it is not too great a hit on your > investment returns. you remove the excess contribution. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DSF" <df190765[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the
You can either withdraw the excess contribution and the> IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you > have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus > maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in > December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property > (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts > you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. earnings on it or "recharacterize" it as a traditional IRA contribution. Details are in IRS Publication 590. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DSF" <df190765[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the
You're supposed to withdraw the excess contributions.> IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you > have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus > maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in > December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property > (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts > you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. > According to the IRS the Roth IRA phase out says: > "...The amount you may contribute to a Roth IRA is gradually > reduced if your modified adjusted gross income is between > $95,000 and $110,000 (between $150,000 and $160,000 if you > are married and file a joint return, and between $0 and > $10,000 if you are married, lived with your spouse and file > a separate return)...." > So what happens now? The IRA trustee will send the IRS info > about your contributions and then the IRS could/will see > that your MAGI will be at or above the phase out limits. Do > you have to withdraw the excess contribution(s) before April > 15th of next year? I guess maybe the other option is to > just take a penalty if it is not too great a hit on your > investment returns. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DSF" <df190765[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the
Yes.> IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you > have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus > maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in > December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property > (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts > you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. > According to the IRS the Roth IRA phase out says: > "...The amount you may contribute to a Roth IRA is gradually > reduced if your modified adjusted gross income is between > $95,000 and $110,000 (between $150,000 and $160,000 if you > are married and file a joint return, and between $0 and > $10,000 if you are married, lived with your spouse and file > a separate return)...." > So what happens now? The IRA trustee will send the IRS info > about your contributions and then the IRS could/will see > that your MAGI will be at or above the phase out limits. Do > you have to withdraw the excess contribution(s) before April > 15th of next year? - quote - > I guess maybe the other option is to
It isn't a one time penalty. It's a recurring penalty until> just take a penalty if it is not too great a hit on your > investment returns. you remove the excess contribution. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DSF" <df190765[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the
You can either withdraw the excess contribution and the> IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you > have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus > maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in > December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property > (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts > you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. earnings on it or "recharacterize" it as a traditional IRA contribution. Details are in IRS Publication 590. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Ok, maybe I am just not seeing something with the way the IRS has their rules written for a Roth IRA. Lets say you have contributed $4,000 to your Roth IRA by August 2005 thus maxing out the contribution for tax year 2005. Then in December 2005 you had a sale of an investment property (rental home) and thus have a large capital gain that puts you over the Roth IRA contribution phase out limits. According to the IRS the Roth IRA phase out says: "...The amount you may contribute to a Roth IRA is gradually reduced if your modified adjusted gross income is between $95,000 and $110,000 (between $150,000 and $160,000 if you are married and file a joint return, and between $0 and $10,000 if you are married, lived with your spouse and file a separate return)...." So what happens now? The IRA trustee will send the IRS info about your contributions and then the IRS could/will see that your MAGI will be at or above the phase out limits. Do you have to withdraw the excess contribution(s) before April 15th of next year? I guess maybe the other option is to just take a penalty if it is not too great a hit on your investment returns. Thanks! << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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