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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
You have indicated in another post that you intend to hold> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? the SSDI payments he receives in an investment account until he is old enough to use the money wisely(?). If you do this, and he doesn't get to spend the money on himself, you would still be providing over half the support and would be able to claim the exemption. Whether or not this income is taxable to him depends on the amount. The usual rules for how much social security is taxed would apply. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > Now is the SSDI taxable to Joshua in the year received?
Not unless 1/2 the benefit + all his other income exceeds$25,000 for the year. Same taxation rules as for regular SSI, using same worksheet in 1040 instructions. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
Does he have much other income?> > "Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: > > > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means > > > a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > > > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > > > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? > > Only if he spends more on his support for the year than you > > do. If he banks the money it doesn't count as support. > Thanks. Phil. > Now is the SSDI taxable to Joshua in the year received? If half his SSDI plus all other income is less than $25,000 has no taxable SSDI. Otherwise there is a worksheet at the back of Pub 915 that lets him assume he received his SSDI income in the year it was for, and if that's a better way to go, and it can be, that's what he uses. It can wipe out any taxable SSDI. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > Now is the SSDI taxable to Joshua in the year received?
Short answer: probably not. Accurate answer: do theworksheet for line 20 of the 1040. (It's his income, not yours, even though it's probably payable to you as custodian.) -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
You only lose him if he actually spends the money for his> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? own support. If he invests it, it's not support. So have him put it in a savings account, mutual fund, or other investment. Bob Sandler << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:
Thanks. Phil.> > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means > > a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? > Only if he spends more on his support for the year than you > do. If he banks the money it doesn't count as support. Now is the SSDI taxable to Joshua in the year received? Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
Not if he banks the money.> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? If he spends it on his own support, then it counts towards calculating whether he provides most of his support. But if he puts most of that money in the bank so that you provide most of his support, you get to claim him as a dependent. Repeat the following mantra 26 times: Facts & circumstances. Facts & Circumstances. ... And so far as I know, there's nothing improper about a little bribe to encourage him to bank that money :^) __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH Moderator: Bribe, hell. I have absolute control over this money and it is going into no-load mutual funds for his education. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
Your son would fail the test only if he uses the funds to> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? support himself and you discover that he has provided more than half of his own support in the year. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
Only if he spends more on his support for the year than you> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? do. If he banks the money it doesn't count as support. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
I think it depends on what you (or he) does with the money> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? received. If it is "socked away" into a savings account for future educational needs, it would not be considered "support provided by a third party" and you could continue to claim him as your dependent. If he is forced to use the money to pay for his lodging, meals, clothing, etc (including buying and supporting a car) then he likely is not your dependent for that year. You are the parent, do the right thing! << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means
My recollection is that it won't unless HE used it in> a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When > Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our > support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? support for himself. If he is still a minor, the income test doesn't apply. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I am now on Social Security Disability Income and that means a two year retroactive payment to me and to Joshua. When Joshua receives his income, it will obviously exceed our support of him - so do we lose him as a dependent for a year? DIck << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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