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| Michael Dauria wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
You could have made contributions to your 2003 tax year up> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. until the due date of your tax return in 2004. What has probably happened, is that you either failed to make it clear to the trustee that your 2004 contribution was for tax year 2003 (not 2004) or the trustee failed to report your contribution properly. Look at the Form 5498 that the trustee sent to you and see what it says for 2003 contributions. Ditto for 2004 contributions. A trustee will assume that any contribution made in a tax year is for that tax year unless you inform the trustee that the contribution is for the prior year. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Michael Dauria wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
You could have made contributions to your 2003 tax year up> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. until the due date of your tax return in 2004. What has probably happened, is that you either failed to make it clear to the trustee that your 2004 contribution was for tax year 2003 (not 2004) or the trustee failed to report your contribution properly. Look at the Form 5498 that the trustee sent to you and see what it says for 2003 contributions. Ditto for 2004 contributions. A trustee will assume that any contribution made in a tax year is for that tax year unless you inform the trustee that the contribution is for the prior year. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Michael Dauria wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
You could have made contributions to your 2003 tax year up> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. until the due date of your tax return in 2004. What has probably happened, is that you either failed to make it clear to the trustee that your 2004 contribution was for tax year 2003 (not 2004) or the trustee failed to report your contribution properly. Look at the Form 5498 that the trustee sent to you and see what it says for 2003 contributions. Ditto for 2004 contributions. A trustee will assume that any contribution made in a tax year is for that tax year unless you inform the trustee that the contribution is for the prior year. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Michael Dauria" <mdauria[at]BeeYou.edu> wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
Sounds like you forgot to tell the manager of the IRA, or> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. the IRA manager erred, and the 2004 payment was credited to 2004, not 2003. Do you have a record that shows that you told the IRA to which year to attribute the contribution? If so, ask the IRA manager to correct the tax records. -- http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Michael Dauria <mdauria[at]BeeYou.edu> wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
Are you certain the IRA Custodian credited the funds added> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. in 2004 as 2003 funds and not 2004 funds? If the IRA custodian gor it wrong, you either have to get them to fix it or you are indeed in trouble. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Michael Dauria wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
Well, you have the gist of it, I think. Just know that you> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. can't deduct more than 3,000$ for 2003 (if you're under 50), so if you were also counting another 3000$ you made in 2004, that was FOR 2004 and not for 2003. That may be the sticking point. However I don't see how IRS would "want" 3000$ more in taxes. A percentage of that possibly, depending on your marginal tax rate. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| mdauria[at]BeeYou.edu (Michael=A0Dauria) wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made
Assuming you did not exceed earnings limits, and that you> a mistake on my 2003 tax forms, they want > 3000 dollars for the mistake. I still need to go > to the bank to get records to see what they are > talking about but I have a question about IRA > deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the > beginning of 2004 I made some deposits to > my IRA to bring the total close to 3000 dollars. > From what I have read, I can add money to > my IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, > so I can include the money I put in the > beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my 2003 tax > forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do > this and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They > say that I put in less money in my IRA that I > claimed to have put in, I believe the difference > is probably the money I put in early 2004. were not age 70, you were entitled to deduct $3,000 or less for an IRA contribution ($3,500 if over age 50) -- and you had until April 15, 2004 to actually deposit the funds. You were also prohibited from making contributions to both a traditional IRA and Roth IRA. But barring any of those qualifications, there doesn't appear to be any problem with what you did. Possibly, the IRA trustee -- bank, broker or whoever -- erred in crediting the deposit in 2004 as a contribution for that year, rather than 2003. I would start by checking with your trustee. If that was the problem (as once happened to me), they should be happy to correct their reports to the government ... and should issue you a letter of explanation, stating it was their error. You should attach a copy of this to your letter replying to the IRS about their claim for additional taxes. However, I must note that the $3,000 IRA deduction _from your gross income_ should not create a tax bill of $3,000. Maybe there's another problem, as well? Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Michael Dauria wrote: - quote - > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004
In order to treat a 2004 IRA contribution as being made in> I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less > money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. 2003 you have to meet two tests: (1) the 2004 contribution must be made before the due date of your return, and (2) you must indicate in writing to the IRA custodian that the 2004 contribution is for the 2003 calendar year (most mutual funds make this easy for you by providing a box to check on the deposit form that accompanies your check). See Prop Reg 1.219-1(d)(2). If you missed either of these steps, then the 2004 deposit is treated as a 2004 contribution to your IRA. --Chris Ballard << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Michael Dauria" <mdauria[at]BeeYou.edu> wrote: - quote - > I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on
Yes. You can even contribute after you file the return, as> my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I > still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they > are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. > In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 > I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to > 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my > IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include > the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my > 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this > and claim this on my 2003 taxes? long as the contribution is made by April 15. See IRS Publication 590. - quote - > They say that I put in less
It probably is. Custodians will apply IRA contributions to> money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the > difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. the year in which they're made unless it's clearly indicated that it's for the prior year. The time to make sure that the custodian did it right is when the contribution is made. If you can prove that this was a 2003 contribution misreported by the custodian, you shouldn't have any IRS problem. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I received a letter from the IRS saying I made a mistake on my 2003 tax forms, they want 3000 dollars for the mistake. I still need to go to the bank to get records to see what they are talking about but I have a question about IRA deposits. In 2003 I made deposits to my IRA, at the beginning of 2004 I made some deposits to my IRA to bring the total close to 3000 dollars. From what I have read, I can add money to my IRA right up until I send in my tax forms, so I can include the money I put in the beginning of 2004 into my IRA on my 2003 tax forms. Can someone confirm that its ok to do this and claim this on my 2003 taxes? They say that I put in less money in my IRA that I claimed to have put in, I believe the difference is probably the money I put in early 2004. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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