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Old 09-11-2005, 03:54 AM
Victor Roberts
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> > > > Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
> > > > SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.


> > > When you earned the money, the amounts contributed to the
> > > plan was included as part of Soc Sec/Medicare wages on Boxes
> > > 3 and 5 of your W-2 form. And when distributed to you from
> > > the Plan, they are not subject to Soc Sc/Medicare.


> > I'm certainly not a tax professional, but my one-employee
> > company has established a SEP (a 5305-SEP, not a 5305A-SEP)
> > for its one employee - me. According to page 6 of
> > Publication 560 (2004) SEP contributions are not included on
> > the employee's W-2 form. The 590 for the year I established
> > the SEP plan has the same statement. Therefore, it is and
> > has been my understanding that no FICA tax is withheld from
> > SEP contributions.


> You are indeed correct in that employER contributions are
> not subject to FICA. However employEE contributions,
> whether they be to the IRA for which the SEP is established,
> or other "regular" retirement plans, FICA does apply to the
> contributions.


I agree, but these contributions and would not show up on
the employEE's W-2 for a 5305-SEP. The FICA deductions would
obviously be assessed on the salary that the employEE uses
to fund the IRA, but those amounts would be unknown to the
employER and would not be assessed separately from FICA on
any other salary paid.

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> However, one with control (like me and you) should
> determine the better route to take. IN my case for example,
> 25% of my salary is lower than the 4500$ I qualify to
> contribute to a regular IRA, so th'ats my route this
> particular year.


Same here, but for a slightly different set of
circumstances.

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Old 09-08-2005, 12:11 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Victor Roberts wrote:
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> kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
> > <jackie_o01[at]yahoo.com> wrote:


> > > Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
> > > SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.


> > When you earned the money, the amounts contributed to the
> > plan was included as part of Soc Sec/Medicare wages on Boxes
> > 3 and 5 of your W-2 form. And when distributed to you from
> > the Plan, they are not subject to Soc Sc/Medicare.


> I'm certainly not a tax professional, but my one-employee
> company has established a SEP (a 5305-SEP, not a 5305A-SEP)
> for its one employee - me. According to page 6 of
> Publication 560 (2004) SEP contributions are not included on
> the employee's W-2 form. The 590 for the year I established
> the SEP plan has the same statement. Therefore, it is and
> has been my understanding that no FICA tax is withheld from
> SEP contributions.


You are indeed correct in that employER contributions are
not subject to FICA. However employEE contributions,
whether they be to the IRA for which the SEP is established,
or other "regular" retirement plans, FICA does apply to the
contributions.

However, one with control (like me and you) should
determine the better route to take. IN my case for example,
25% of my salary is lower than the 4500$ I qualify to
contribute to a regular IRA, so th'ats my route this
particular year.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 09-07-2005, 11:52 PM
Victor Roberts
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Victor Roberts <xxx[at]lighting-research.com> wrote:
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> kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
> > <jackie_o01[at]yahoo.com> wrote:


> > > Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
> > > SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.


> > When you earned the money, the amounts contributed to the
> > plan was included as part of Soc Sec/Medicare wages on Boxes
> > 3 and 5 of your W-2 form. And when distributed to you from
> > the Plan, they are not subject to Soc Sc/Medicare.


> I'm certainly not a tax professional, but my one-employee
> company has established a SEP (a 5305-SEP, not a 5305A-SEP)
> for its one employee - me. According to page 6 of
> Publication 560 (2004) SEP contributions are not included on
> the employee's W-2 form. The 590 for the year I established
> the SEP plan has the same statement. Therefore, it is and
> has been my understanding that no FICA tax is withheld from
> SEP contributions.


Sorry - I should have typed "The 560 for the year ..." not
"the 590 ..."

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Old 09-05-2005, 02:55 AM
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kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
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> <jackie_o01[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
> > SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.


> When you earned the money, the amounts contributed to the
> plan was included as part of Soc Sec/Medicare wages on Boxes
> 3 and 5 of your W-2 form. And when distributed to you from
> the Plan, they are not subject to Soc Sc/Medicare.


I'm certainly not a tax professional, but my one-employee
company has established a SEP (a 5305-SEP, not a 5305A-SEP)
for its one employee - me. According to page 6 of
Publication 560 (2004) SEP contributions are not included on
the employee's W-2 form. The 590 for the year I established
the SEP plan has the same statement. Therefore, it is and
has been my understanding that no FICA tax is withheld from
SEP contributions.

--
Vic Roberts
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:16 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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<jackie_o01[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
> SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.


When you earned the money, the amounts contributed to the
plan was included as part of Soc Sec/Medicare wages on Boxes
3 and 5 of your W-2 form. And when distributed to you from
the Plan, they are not subject to Soc Sc/Medicare.

__
Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 09-03-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Qualified Retirement Plans and FICA

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> Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
> SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.


Generally not -- the FICA taxes are paid before the money
goes into the plans. Only income tax is deferred. The same
holds true for nonqualified (deferred compensation) plans.

Steve

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Old 09-02-2005, 02:41 AM
jackie_o01@yahoo.com
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Default Qualified Retirement Plans and FICA

Are qualified retirement plans, in particular, the SEP-IRA,
SIMPLE-IRA, or SIMPLE 401(k) subject to FICA? Thanks.

Jackie

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