Go Back   CDN Business Directory > Main Category > Taxes

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #2  
Old 09-05-2005, 02:55 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Estate tax added to basis?

"kw" <kwdrums[at]aol.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I have heard that estate tax paid on the value of an
> investment can be added to that investment's basis. Is this
> true? I cannot find anything in print; either to verify or
> deny.
> I have a client who inherited a sizable portfolio of
> muni-bonds from a decedant's estate. The estate paid nearly
> 800K in tax (form 706) based on the value of those bonds at
> death.
> Adding a pro-rata portion to each bond's basis would create
> a sizable capital loss upon sale. Over time, once all the
> investments had been sold, I presume you would recoup the
> 800K.
> Does this seem correct? Or am I way off base here?


It's all irrelevant as estate tax paid has no bearing on an
asset's basis. The fact that you cannot find anything to
verify your assertion SHOULD have been a good indicator that
no such thing exists.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
  #1  
Old 09-05-2005, 02:36 AM
D. Stussy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Estate tax added to basis?

kw wrote:
- quote -

> I have heard that estate tax paid on the value of an
> investment can be added to that investment's basis. Is this
> true? I cannot find anything in print; either to verify or
> deny.


False. However, as the other reply stated, GIFT TAX is
added, but with a gift, there's no step-up to FMV.

- quote -

> I have a client who inherited a sizable portfolio of
> muni-bonds from a decedant's estate. The estate paid nearly
> 800K in tax (form 706) based on the value of those bonds at
> death.
> Adding a pro-rata portion to each bond's basis would create
> a sizable capital loss upon sale. Over time, once all the
> investments had been sold, I presume you would recoup the
> 800K.
> Does this seem correct? Or am I way off base here?


Way off.

However, there is one way that an addition to basis besides
the estate tax's value of the assets might occur: If the
estate cannot pay its tax (i.e. no liquid assets) and a
beneficiary loans the estate the funds to pay the tax - AND
that beneficiary doesn't receive any property he wasn't
already entitled to and no excess property exists, then the
loan amount might be capitalizable into the assets received
(instead of bad debt treatment). However, I don't believe
that this has ever been tested before the Tax Court. The
implication is that the amount loaned was necessary to
obtain clear title to the property and to clear off the
automatic implied estate tax lien that attaches at death.
Lots of "if's" here.

In your case, since the estate was able to pay its tax, this
wouldn't apply.

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
 
Old 08-31-2005, 02:30 AM
Robert Daniels
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Estate tax added to basis?

"kw" <kwdrums[at]aol.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I have heard that estate tax paid on the value of an
> investment can be added to that investment's basis. Is this
> true? I cannot find anything in print; either to verify or
> deny.
> I have a client who inherited a sizable portfolio of
> muni-bonds from a decedant's estate. The estate paid nearly
> 800K in tax (form 706) based on the value of those bonds at
> death.
> Adding a pro-rata portion to each bond's basis would create
> a sizable capital loss upon sale. Over time, once all the
> investments had been sold, I presume you would recoup the
> 800K.
> Does this seem correct? Or am I way off base here?


There is no such rule for estate tax. Part of the *Gift* tax
paid on *gifts* of appreciated property is added to basis
under Tax Code Section 1015(d). The amount to add is: tax *
[(FMV-Old Basis)/FMV]. Also, there is an itemized income tax
deduction for estate tax paid on assets that don't get a new
basis at death, such as retirement plans and other "income
in respect of a decedent." But if the bonds got a "value at
death" basis, then that's the basis to use if they are sold.

Bob Daniels ("There's no luggage rack on a hearse, and no
pockets on a shroud." - 'G)

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
  #-1  
Old 08-29-2005, 02:45 PM
kw
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Estate tax added to basis?

I have heard that estate tax paid on the value of an
investment can be added to that investment's basis. Is this
true? I cannot find anything in print; either to verify or
deny.

I have a client who inherited a sizable portfolio of
muni-bonds from a decedant's estate. The estate paid nearly
800K in tax (form 706) based on the value of those bonds at
death.

Adding a pro-rata portion to each bond's basis would create
a sizable capital loss upon sale. Over time, once all the
investments had been sold, I presume you would recoup the
800K.

Does this seem correct? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks,
KW

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
 

Tags
added, basis, estate, tax
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Money 06 OEM Cost Basis columns added incorrectly
jm1515: I use the above ver of Money and enter my own transactions into PortfolioManager. Before last week I had 7 mutual fund accounts there and all was...
Microsoft Money 5 08-17-2008 12:41 PM
Cost basis of estate assets
Mark Freeland: Situation: taxpayer dies at end of 2003; bonds in estate mature in 2004 prior to distribution by executor (or equivalently?, securities are sold by...
Taxes 2 04-11-2005 08:49 PM
Basis of stock in an estate?
John: For estate purposes, is stock valued at the deceased's basis, or at market value? I am pretty sure it is valued at the gifter's basis on a give,...
Taxes 15 10-04-2004 03:17 PM
Tax Basis in Inherited Real Estate
DaveCPA: Husband and Wife own a house as tenancy by entirety purchased in 1952 in Massachusetts. Husband dies in 1980. Wife inherits at that time. Wife...
Taxes 5 09-23-2004 03:52 AM
Tax basis on inherited real estate
Bevd: I've sold my home and would like to know my tax basis. I'm a widow, owned the home jointly with my husband, it was in the will that I recieve the...
Taxes 10 09-16-2004 04:05 AM



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT. The time now is 02:38 PM.