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Old 08-25-2005, 11:22 AM
David Woods
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"David Jensen" <DJNews1[at]xxAssociates.net> wrote:

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> Let's say that you are living in Canada but have $75K
> stateside investment income. Does the $80K IRS income
> tax exclusion apply to that $75K or does it only apply
> to income earned outside the US?


Well it's called the Foreign EARNED Income exclusion.

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Woods Financial Services
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:22 AM
A.G. Kalman
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David Jensen wrote:

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> Let's say that you are living in Canada but have $75K
> stateside investment income. Does the $80K IRS income
> tax exclusion apply to that $75K or does it only apply
> to income earned outside the US?


The name says it all: Foreign "Earned Income" Exclusion.

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:22 AM
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Andy replies:

The exclusion applies only to "wage" income, and not at all
to investment income.... In addition, any income from Canada
is subject to tax by the United States. If it is "wage"
income, it might be subject to the exclusion, depending on
the present treaty with Canada.

You need a tax man who is familiar with international taxes
for expatriates. A U S Citizen is responsible for ALL income
to be taxed by the US , regardless of source, with a very
few exceptions.

You must also file a US return, regardless of the source, or
amount, to prove that you are complying with US tax law.

If, however, you don't ever intend to return to the US, and
have no property in the US, and have no possibility of
inheriting anything from the US, and have no claim for
"entitlements" such as US social security,....... you might
be able to get away with ignoring the US tax laws.......

Welcome to the real world...

Andy

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:03 AM
Paul A Thomas
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Default Re: Tax consequence of living abroad but having stateside income

"David Jensen" <DJNews1[at]xxAssociates.net> wrote

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> Let's say that you are living in Canada but have $75K
> stateside investment income. Does the $80K IRS income
> tax exclusion apply to that $75K or does it only apply
> to income earned outside the US?


The exclusion is for foreign ~earned~ income. Wages and
such.

And yes, only for that which is earned while you reside
abroad and the rules under Section 911(a) are met.

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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia
taxman at negia.net

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:03 AM
Rich Carreiro
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Default Re: Tax consequence of living abroad but having stateside income

"David Jensen" <DJNews1[at]xxAssociates.net> writes:

- quote -

> Let's say that you are living in Canada but have $75K
> stateside investment income. Does the $80K IRS income
> tax exclusion apply to that $75K or does it only apply
> to income earned outside the US?


The exclusion is the "foreign earned income exclusion". So
it only applies to *earned* income (wages, self-employment,
etc.) earned outside the US. It won't apply to any
investment income (stateside or overseas).

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:03 AM
Dick Adams
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"David Jensen" <DJNews1[at]xxAssociates.net> writes:

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> Let's say that you are living in Canada but have $75K
> stateside investment income. Does the $80K IRS income
> tax exclusion apply to that $75K or does it only apply
> to income earned outside the US?


The exclusion is for earned income, not investment income.
If you were to convert investment income to earned income,
it would become subject to self-employment tax. Yikes!!!

Dick

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Old 08-23-2005, 04:27 PM
David Jensen
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Default Tax consequence of living abroad but having stateside income

Let's say that you are living in Canada but have $75K
stateside investment income. Does the $80K IRS income
tax exclusion apply to that $75K or does it only apply
to income earned outside the US?

Thanks.

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David Jensen
Change the xx in my email address to MJ for my real email
address. Thanks.

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